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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    In NY they are attempting to pass a law that requires stamping ammo.
    And so, when the criminals get their ammo from outside NY...

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Nevermind the fact that most projectiles get so mangled in the body they're pretty hard to identify let alone read microscopic serial numbers on.
    They're probably going to stamp the casing, anyway. The spent brass collected at the crime scene will be used as evidence.

    I can hear it now: 70 y/o woman suspect in gang drive-by.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're probably going to stamp the casing, anyway. The spent brass collected at the crime scene will be used as evidence.
    Revolvers, anyone?

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The Federal Ban is very specific. What legitimate purpose would a gun owner have for a fully-automatic M16 except to get his lame rocks off showing it to his redneck friends.
    Fully automatic guns have not been allowed for many years without the possession of a special federal permit that very few people have.

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Fully automatic guns have not been allowed for many years without the possession of a special federal permit that very few people have.
    Its not really a licence.

    To purchase a fully-automatic weapon, you submit your transnfer paperwork to the BATF and pay a $200 tax on the transfer.

    Full-auto weapons, even belt-fed machoneguns, are relatively expensive, but readily available.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're probably going to stamp the casing, anyway. The spent brass collected at the crime scene will be used as evidence.

    I can hear it now: 70 y/o woman suspect in gang drive-by.
    I know how to police my brass...

    I imagine others would just learn how.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Its not really a licence.

    To purchase a fully-automatic weapon, you submit your transnfer paperwork to the BATF and pay a $200 tax on the transfer.

    Full-auto weapons, even belt-fed machoneguns, are relatively expensive, but readily available.
    You're right. I was thinking of the dealers Class III FFL license requirement.

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Amazing how that little detail seems to eludes anti-2nd amendment nuts. The only reason for a firearm registration is so the government knows who has what so that one day day they can go knocking on doors to confiscate firearms.
    You assume that those who push gun controls actually INTEND that the stuff they promote is designed to impact crime?

    Gun control laws work very well for what they are intended to do

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You assume that those who push gun controls actually INTEND that the stuff they promote is designed to impact crime?

    Gun control laws work very well for what they are intended to do

    HASSLE AND DISARM HONEST PEOPLE
    I agree thats why politicians enact anti-2nd amendment laws. Most of the anti-2nd amendment voters are morons who buy into the nonsense that somehow making something illegal is going to stop people who in the first place do not obey the laws.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    CA has a micro stamping law in place that is set to take effect Jan. 1, 2010. It was passed in 2007 and signed by that RINO Schwarzenegger.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AB_1471]AB 1471 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Never mind that the technology is not reliable enough to garner certification as being 100% reliable. Never mind that no manufacturer has started working on implementing micro stamping on any weapon.

    Also signed on the same day was a law outlawing any ammunition that contains any amount of lead in the majority of hunting areas in California. The problem with this is that almost every bullet contains at least a small amount of lead in the metal alloy that the bullet is made from. While this law does not ban guns, it does make shooting them tremendously more expensive.

    There is another bill that is on his desk now that would require fingerprinting every time you buy ammunition in CA. It would also ban mail order or internet sales of ammunition or reloading supplies. Again, this would not ban guns but would make it almost impossible to get ammunition for many of the less common types and sizes of ammunition. If you can't get ammunition, you can't use your gun. So expect to see more of these types of laws designed to do an end run around the 2nd amendment.

    California AB 962: Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition.

    "The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law."

    Expect to see him take no action which will be the same as signing it.

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