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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    So if a murder is committed with a gun, there should be no registration number on the weapon at the crime scene for police to trace to an owner?

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    So if a murder is committed with a gun, there should be no registration number on the weapon at the crime scene for police to trace to an owner?

    And this is going to help if, as is commonly the case with weapons used in crimes:

    The gun was sold three times since the original owner bought it;

    Then it was stolen from the last guy;

    Then it was sold on the black market five different times...

    (criminals don't register their guns)

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    C'mon, now. How many burglers do you know walk around breaking into houses carrying an assault riffle slung over their shoulder? Instead of replying with hyperbole, let's try staying in the reality of the real.

    Again, I fully understand where the hardline viewpoint is on this matter, but let's use some common sense here, folks.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    So if a murder is committed with a gun, there should be no registration number on the weapon at the crime scene for police to trace to an owner?
    No there should not be any registration numbers. its none of the government's damn business what fire arms I have or how many I have.


    A.Why is it the government's business what weapons I own?
    B.Why would a criminal in a anti-2nd amendment state register a firearm?
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No there should not be any registration numbers. its none of the government's damn business what fire arms I have or how many I have.


    A.Why is it the government's business what weapons I own?
    B.Why would a criminal in a anti-2nd amendment state register a firearm?
    The simple answer for numbskulls here...


    criminals don't register guns, nor do they obey existing laws. Why would they start if we enacted more of the laws they already don't follow?
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If a cat burgler shows up with a .38 revolver; I want to meet him with an M-16. In the military, it's called, "fire superiority". There's some reality for you.
    May I suggest a 12 gauge? The auto weapon unnecessary in this event of a burglar coming in uninvited. I just replaced the firing pin on my Mossberg. A lightweight handy home device that scares most away by the sound of the slide. I used easy instrucs, the shotgun dismantles very easily, is super easy to clean...and buckshot using the 9 pellet Remington ammo...is all you need.

    Wait till the dog gets out of the way though...unless yer in a hurry. I mean I cannot sit here and tell you it won't take the dog, a few kids, a wife(if need be), and the refrigerator.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    The simple answer for numbskulls here...


    criminals don't register guns, nor do they obey existing laws. Why would they start if we enacted more of the laws they already don't follow?
    Amazing how that little detail seems to eludes anti-2nd amendment nuts. The only reason for a firearm registration is so the government knows who has what so that one day day they can go knocking on doors to confiscate firearms.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    May I suggest a 12 gauge? The auto weapon unnecessary in this event of a burglar coming in uninvited. I just replaced the firing pin on my Mossberg. A lightweight handy home device that scares most away by the sound of the slide. I used easy instrucs, the shotgun dismantles very easily, is super easy to clean...and buckshot using the 9 pellet Remington ammo...is all you need.

    Wait till the dog gets out of the way though...unless yer in a hurry. I mean I cannot sit here and tell you it won't take the dog, a few kids, a wife(if need be), and the refrigerator.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    The simple answer for numbskulls here...


    criminals don't register guns, nor do they obey existing laws. Why would they start if we enacted more of the laws they already don't follow?
    Because.....because they just better....that's why.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Don't states and local jurisdictions have the right to determine what is safe and reasonable for their area?
    Not if doing so violates the Constitution.

    "The 2nd amendment doesn't mention assault weapons." -- is the most idiotic statement uttered by gun rights advocates.
    Assault weapons weren't invented you nitwits!
    Neither was CNN or the internet, but the 1st amendment protects those.

    There is NO sound argument that 'assult weapons' do not fall under the defintion of 'arms' as th eterm is used in the 2nd.

    Goddamn people are thick and unreasonable on this issue.
    Especially on the anti-gun side.

    I know more than a few gun owners that have their legal guns and then their secret stash of guns purchased under the table etc. You got two ****ing hands asshole! What do you need 15 ****ing guns for, you moron?
    See above, re: thick and unreasonable

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