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Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’

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Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’ - Times Online

How’s Obama doing? “Dreadfully. I was hopeful. He was the most intelligent person we’ve had in that position for a long time. But he’s inexperienced.
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It has wrecked the airline business, which my father founded in the 1930s. He’d be cutting his wrists. Now when you fly you’re both scared to death and bored to death, a most disagreeable combination.”
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but there was an age of general intelligence. We had a watchdog, the media.” The media is too supine? “Would that it was. They’re busy preparing us for an Iranian war.”
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Obama believes the Republican Party is a party when in fact it’s a mindset, like Hitler Youth, based on hatred — religious hatred,
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Another notable Obama mis-step has been on healthcare reform. “He f***ed it up. I don’t know how because the country wanted it. We’ll never see it happen.”
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Has he met Obama? “No,” he says quietly, “I’ve had my time with presidents.” Vidal raises his fingers to signify a gun and mutters: “Bang bang.” He is referring to the possibility of Obama being assassinated. “Just a mysterious lone gunman lurking in the shadows of the capital,” he says in a wry, dreamy way.

hopefully he is wrong about the assassination. Hopefully he is right about the election going Right, and healthcare. But he is way off base on the religious hatred crap. Some are, most are not
 
I have a soft spot for this line though:

History has proven when the girls get involved, they’re good at it.

He's 83 though. Probably most everyone sounds a bit nuts by 83.
 
Guy sounds like a nutter loon.

My sentiments exactly; "Obama believes the Republican Party is a party when in fact it’s a mindset, like Hitler Youth, based on hatred — religious hatred, "

Nothing more need be said. :doh
 
meh, give the dude a break. They probably changed his depends immediately after the interview. You know he shat himself a tad when he went, "Bang, bang. "
 
My sentiments exactly; "Obama believes the Republican Party is a party when in fact it’s a mindset, like Hitler Youth, based on hatred — religious hatred, "

Nothing more need be said. :doh

That's exactly what it is. The GOP has no core beliefs or values.

Anything goes in the name of winning. They'll happily screw their religious base voters over if needed. They'll happily wiretap and hold Americans in jail unconstitutionally. They'll happilly run up the defict.

The mindset is say no to everything. Tear down everything. Bad mouth everything.
 
That's exactly what it is. The GOP has no core beliefs or values.

Anything goes in the name of winning. They'll happily screw their religious base voters over if needed. They'll happily wiretap and hold Americans in jail unconstitutionally. They'll happilly run up the defict.

The mindset is say no to everything. Tear down everything. Bad mouth everything.

maybe just every once in a while, you could pick a different chapter and verse of the looney left playbook to copy/paste :roll:
 
And he's right we are headed in the direction of a dictatorship. A dictatorship led by corporations who have bought and paid for our govenment.

* Thanks to 30 years of right wing ideology in regards to tax policy. The gap between rich and poor is the highest it's been in our Nation's history. White middle class men fell for trick that said advocating for the wealthy paying a a larger share of the tax burden was "class warfare". You stood by while they created tax loopholes big enough to drive a semi through.

* Now these right wing Supreme Court justices you helped get appointed are about to open the flood gates of corporate money coming in to attack candidates for office. Unlimited amounts of money will make your individual contributions look like chump change.

* You severly weakened the ability of working men to do anything to fight these corporations by enacting so called "right to work" laws which effectivlly kill union power.

You like badmouthing government and regulations? Well you got it buster.

Enjoy your dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest future.
 
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That's exactly what it is. The GOP has no core beliefs or values.

Anything goes in the name of winning. They'll happily screw their religious base voters over if needed. They'll happily wiretap and hold Americans in jail unconstitutionally. They'll happilly run up the defict.

The mindset is say no to everything. Tear down everything. Bad mouth everything.

Suffice it to say that coming from you, this type of uninformed, farcical and hypocritical rant has ZERO credibility.

But hey, carry on; we need a constant reminder of the mentality of those on the LEFT and why they should remain on the margins of political power and society.
 
And he's right we are headed in the direction of a dictatorship. A dictatorship led by corporations who have bought and paid for our govenment.

* Thanks to 30 years of right wing ideology in regards to tax policy. The gap between rich and poor is the highest it's been in our Nation's history. White middle class men fell for trick that said advocating for the wealthy paying a a larger share of the tax burden was "class warfare". You stood by while they created tax loopholes big enough to drive a semi through.

* Now these right wing Supreme Court justices you helped get appointed are about to open the flood gates of corporate money coming in to attack candidates for office. Unlimited amounts of money will make your individual contributions look like chump change.

You like badmouthing government and regulations? Well you got it buster.

Enjoy your dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest future.

I think Karl Marx has taken over dragondad's brain. :rofl

I could debunk the lies and distortions of the above statements, but why bother when it is obvious that you are hardly interested in reality OR the facts:

Lie and more of a hysterical hyperbolic rant: we are headed in the direction of a dictatorship

False statement with no facts to support it: Thanks to 30 years of right wing ideology in regards to tax policy

Laughable in that the wealthy actually do pay the largest share of tax receipts: fell for trick that said advocating for the wealthy paying a a larger share of the tax burden was "class warfare".

Lunatic assertion: Now these right wing Supreme Court justices you helped get appointed are about to open the flood gates of corporate money coming in to attack candidates for office.

Don't stop however; we need this constant reminder of who votes for people like Obama. :rofl
 
Here's another outcome of GOP ideology that says people who don't have proper health care are lazy, mainly minorities, who will not work.

Check out all your fellow white working Southerner's you screw over.

Self described "Christians", you work against health care for citizens less fortunate than yoursleves.

YouTube - 60 Minutes - Remote Area Medical
 
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Here's another outcome of GOP ideology that says people who don't have proper health care are lazy, mainly minorities, who will not work.

Check out all your fellow white working Southerner's you screw over.

Self described "Christians", you work against health care for citizens less fortunate than yoursleves.

YouTube - 60 Minutes - Remote Area Medical

The irony of your rants is the fact that Democrats have controlled the Congress for 5 of the last 6 decades and that Democrats are the ones currently blocking the efforts of Obama and some select Left wing Liberals like Pelosi from implementing Universal Government Healthcare; not the Republicans.

But since when did you ever show a propensity to allow FACTS and REALITY to get in the way of your rabid Left wing ideology and farcical notions about how the REAL world works?

The real question that still remains unanswered in all your uninformed blather is where this mythical 47 million without healthcare number comes from and the credible FACTS to support this fabricated number.

I have yet to see ONE credible source for the data that Liberals desperately sling around to support the fabricated argument that our healthcare system is so broken that ONLY major Government intervention by a well meaning Liberal Government can solve it.

But alas, it is so obviously easy to be a Liberal left wing socialist; all you have to do is care and sling fabricated hyperbolic BS about your political opponents.

As for this 60 minutes story, I watched it and was amused by the farcical conclusions and desperate connections it attempted to make in order to link this to the equally farcical notions that Universal Healthcare is the answer to all our healthcare problems.
 
That's exactly what it is. The GOP has no core beliefs or values.

Anything goes in the name of winning. They'll happily screw their religious base voters over if needed. They'll happily wiretap and hold Americans in jail unconstitutionally. They'll happilly run up the defict.

The mindset is say no to everything. Tear down everything. Bad mouth everything.

Wrong party.... that's the libs you're talking about.
 
maybe just every once in a while, you could pick a different chapter and verse of the looney left playbook to copy/paste :roll:

You are comical in your stupidity and racism.

"Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its IDIOT."

Clearly all you want to accomplish is draw attention to Obama's skin colour.

Your sig alludes to Kenya because Kenya is a black country.

Nevermind Obama wasn't born in Kenya.

Nevermind the lack of evidence.

So the question is, why would someone falsely claim a black man in the U.S.A was born in a majority black country like Kenya (With no evidence mind you) if not to draw attention to his skin color?

Oh yea, because you wanted to draw attention to his skin color.

You're a racist and its obvious.

So don't go around calling anyone "Looney."

Because buddy, considering your choice to put that sig up, you're the biggest clown on the internet.
 
You are comical in your stupidity and racism.

"Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its IDIOT."

Clearly all you want to accomplish is draw attention to Obama's skin colour.

Your sig alludes to Kenya because Kenya is a black country.

Nevermind Obama wasn't born in Kenya.

Nevermind the lack of evidence.

So the question is, why would someone falsely claim a black man in the U.S.A was born in a majority black country like Kenya (With no evidence mind you) if not to draw attention to his skin color?

Oh yea, because you wanted to draw attention to his skin color.

You're a racist and its obvious.

So don't go around calling anyone "Looney."

Because buddy, considering your choice to put that sig up, you're the biggest clown on the internet.

I have no idea why he actually has it in his sig, and I don't agree with it at all -- but seeing as Obama's father was from Kenya, it wasn't exactly a random choice.
 
I have no idea why he actually has it in his sig, and I don't agree with it at all -- but seeing as Obama's father was from Kenya, it wasn't exactly a random choice.

it is a dig at the idiots who had the Bush sticker. thought that was pretty obvious :doh
 
Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’ - Times Online

hopefully he is wrong about the assassination. Hopefully he is right about the election going Right,
Of course the election will go right... Obama's done everything to be hated, so then the right will win most of the seats in the next election. Thinking that the right will save the day, they will turn around after winning the votes and tell the american people that they agree completely with the left and unite the parties. (Ok probably not overnight... but over the term)


and healthcare. But he is way off base on the religious hatred crap. Some are, most are not

I'm most concerned of his talk of an imminent dictator in america.... if nothing else this part is unfortunately true.

Guy sounds like a nutter loon.

That guy has lived through the great depression several big wars, and I don't even know all his personal accomplishments....

Old != senile... though senile people are usually old.

I have a soft spot for this line though:

History has proven when the girls get involved, they’re good at it.

He's 83 though. Probably most everyone sounds a bit nuts by 83.

He's clearly all there watching the video clip...why would you be so easy to call everyone crazy??

Suffice it to say that coming from you, this type of uninformed, farcical and hypocritical rant has ZERO credibility.

But hey, carry on; we need a constant reminder of the mentality of those on the LEFT and why they should remain on the margins of political power and society.


What he's trying to say is that the people who fund presidents getting into power typically have a fair bit more clout then what the voters want... regardless of which party is in power the rich have hedged their bets to have that clout. (Ex : Obama received 4x the funds that McCain got from the banks which profited most from the bailout.)

Make sense?

Where does that fit in the 'left-right' spectrum?
 
I met Gore Vidal once. Someone asked him something about Bush, and he said something about how his allegiance to God made him a dog because the words were each other spelled backwards or something. :rofl :shrug:
 
Gore Vidal is a brilliant writer and wit but a self indulgent cynic who has proffered lamentations on behalf of the American Republic his entire career.

Read his essay collection United States, (a brilliant read), he has been predicting doom and gloom for America since the 50s, first the Soviets would win, then the Vietnam loss heralded America’s end, then the rise of Japan meant America was finished, then the rise of domestic terror and Oklahoma City meant the end of the Republic, then 9 11 and on and on. The key to Gore’s perennial disaffection with the US is admitted in his own autobiography, he lost the greatest love of his life, Jimmy Trimbal, a marine who died in WW2.

Gore has never forgiven either Roosevelt, America or the world itself for this loss, and so his political philosophy is nothing more than 'vanity of vanities; all is vanity'.

He is a brilliant, savagely funny man, but he is also tragically and self indulgently sad and he wants the entire republic to be sad with him.
 
Gore Vidal is a brilliant writer and wit but a self indulgent cynic who has proffered lamentations on behalf of the American Republic his entire career.

Read his essay collection United States, (a brilliant read), he has been predicting doom and gloom for America since the 50s, first the Soviets would win, then the Vietnam loss heralded America’s end, then the rise of Japan meant America was finished, then the rise of domestic terror and Oklahoma City meant the end of the Republic, then 9 11 and on and on. The key to Gore’s perennial disaffection with the US is admitted in his own autobiography, he lost the greatest love of his life, Jimmy Trimbal, a marine who died in WW2.

Gore has never forgiven either Roosevelt, America or the world itself for this loss, and so his political philosophy is nothing more than 'vanity of vanities; all is vanity'.

He is a brilliant, savagely funny man, but he is also tragically and self indulgently sad and he wants the entire republic to be sad with him.

With that in mind... his views may be tarnished... but he still does see the signs of what COULD happen, and fairly soon,

It would not be an easy feat to overcome the challenges faced by the US and it's people.... so many people can only barely accept that there are problems thinking that it's unpatriotic or something... anyway, before I rant... thanks.
 
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