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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That police can more easily search everyone now, more than they could. Loss of more freedoms over this. That was the point.



    How so? Your position makes no sense.
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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I really wish people would stop using this. That's not a restriction. I don't need to get a permit to say "fire". Yelling fire in a crowded theater is illegal because it directly leads to a panic in which people can be injured. You are therefore infringing upon their rights. That being illegal is not a restriction on free speech, but rather a demonstration of the one limit to our rights; we may not infringe upon the rights of others.
    So would waving a gun around in a bar be okay even though it scares the **** out patrons?

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How so? Your position makes no sense.
    Because cops can stop ANYONE they think that has been drinking from a bar and check to see if they have a concealed weapon on them even when they don't. If you can't understand that, noone can help you.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ewm90 View Post
    Its not going to be fun for the bar keeper sweeping bodies from the bar and patching up built holes in the walls.

    People are barded from driving drunk. but not for having a gun wile drunk grate plain.

    Another day for liberty over logic.



    People are not barred from having a six pack on the passenger seat.



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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Because cops can stop ANYONE they think that has been drinking from a bar and check to see if they have a concealed weapon on them even when they don't. If you can't understand that, noone can help you.


    They can already, the gun is irrellevant.
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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ewm90 View Post
    Its not going to be fun for the bar keeper sweeping bodies from the bar and patching up built holes in the walls.

    People are barded from driving drunk. but not for having a gun wile drunk grate plain.

    Another day for liberty over logic.
    Jesus tap dancing Christ. This is as bad as the terrorist arguments for expansion of the government. Allow people to set the rules on their property and all of a sudden bar tenders will be sweeping bodies from the bar and patching up holes! Run everybody, run for your lives; we're allowing people to exercise their rights!!!!!! Everybody FREAK OUT! Quick before someone says anything sensible!
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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Where did this nonsense that we can, somehow, pre-empt crime by assuming that everyone will commit a crime come from?
    it's not nonsense. how many gun deaths does japan record?

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So would waving a gun around in a bar be okay even though it scares the **** out patrons?
    You're not waving a gun around. It's concealed. For the love of Christ people.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's not nonsense. how many gun deaths does japan record?
    How many suicides does it have? I mean, why cherry pick stats here. Japan can do as they like, that's their government and their problem to deal with. In America we've based our Republic on the rights and liberties of the individual which include but are not limited to the right to keep and bear arms.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You're not waving a gun around. It's concealed. For the love of Christ people.
    What law is to stop someone from doing that?

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