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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Brandishing is a fairly subjective term.
    No, no it's not.

    If I display my firearm in an aggressive fashion or otherwise point / wave it around..


    That's clear cut brandishing.

    My shirt riding up and exposing the handle of my HOLSTERED firearm is not brandishing.


    jeez, how hard is that to figure out?
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    is it not illegal to brandish a firearm? it is in my state.
    ok stevenb and Zyphlin already mentioned this, my bad

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Brandishing is a fairly subjective term.
    not really...

    Quote Originally Posted by www.mycaliforniadefenselawyer.com
    If you draw or show a firearm, loaded or unloaded, in an angry or threatening manner or during a fight, you may be charged with this offense that is typically classified as a misdemeanor.

    If the offense took place on public property and the firearm is a pistol or some other firearm easily concealed, you will serve a minimum of 3 months in jail and up to one year. However, if not committed in a public place, you face 30 days to one year in jail.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    And... in AZ any business can refuse service to you for any reason.. of which they don't have to provide.

    gee.
    Uhmmm do you even know why I used the example of the lunch counter?

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmmm do you even know why I used the example of the lunch counter?
    To be honest, I could care less... Forcing a business to service customers that it doesn't want to is unconstitutional.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    To be honest, I could care less... Forcing a business to service customers that it doesn't want to is unconstitutional.
    Unless they are a minority of course...

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    To be honest, I could care less... Forcing a business to service customers that it doesn't want to is unconstitutional.
    Id suggest you look at the 14th amendment to the Constitution. Also look into Rosa Parks. As well as the lunch counter issue.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Well now they definitely are, with this new law.



    Really?


    I have a CCW, I actually rarely carry.
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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Not quite true. If I own a lunch counter I can not deny service to people for whatever reason.


    "The Manegment has the right to refuse service to anyone"


    Ever see those signs?
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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    "The Manegment has the right to refuse service to anyone"


    Ever see those signs?


    Only in every restaurant I've ever been in...

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Unless they are a minority of course...
    Precisely.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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