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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    That is completely crazy.
    All we need are more drunks with guns.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    He can get bitchy about whatever he wants, since its his property. You have no right to be there.
    Actually, up until the point that he kicks me off of his "property" that's open to the public.. I have every right to be there.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone70 View Post
    That is completely crazy.
    All we need are more drunks with guns.
    Really?

    Care to ****ing read the article?
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Personally Id rather be in charge of my own safety not the government.



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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    On properties that don't want the guns, this will just lead to more searches of people as they enter the bars. It's true that you can just leave the bar and go somewhere else, but if you live in a small area with one or two that have the same policy, then your rights are pretty screwed anyway.

    I'm all for people defending their homes and their property, but I would feel less safe at a bar with so many people carrying. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible carriers, but it doesn't change the fact that one crazy drunk person at the bar who decides to go kamikaze will do a lot of damage. For me the issue has never been about people abusing guns en mass, but it's about the efficiency that guns have at killing as compared to knives or other instruments. You can kill someone much easier with a gun.

    I only know a couple of bartenders in the U.S. and they both have guns behind the counter. If something goes down, my instinct would not be to reach for my gun but to get out of dodge.




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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Its been a while since I researched the statistics, but I believe at close range a Knife actually carries a higher fatality risk rate than a gun does.



    so do bodies of water.
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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Actually, up until the point that he kicks me off of his "property" that's open to the public.. I have every right to be there.
    Nobody has the "right" to enter another person's private property, rather, they have the privilege of entering, and that privilege can be rescinded at any time for whatever reason.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Nobody has the "right" to enter another person's private property, rather, they have the privilege of entering, and that privilege can be rescinded at any time for whatever reason.
    Not quite true. If I own a lunch counter I can not deny service to people for whatever reason.
    Last edited by winston53660; 10-01-09 at 04:32 PM.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How would you know if someone was carrying?
    Well now they definitely are, with this new law.

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    Re: Guns allowed in Arizona bars starting Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Not quite true. If I own a luch counter I can not deny service to people for whatever reason.
    That's because our government has a penchant for passing unconstitutional laws.

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