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    N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

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    Saying They Should Be Given A Choice, Employees Rally In Albany, Around State, Chant "No Forced Shots!"
    Protesters Hold Signs That Read: "The State Doesn't Own My Body'" Reporting
    Jennifer McLogan STONY BROOK, N.Y. (CBS)

    They're upset over an ultimatum from the health department.
    Workers are being told to either get the swine flu vaccine or lose their jobs.
    New York is the first state in the country to mandate flu vaccinations for its health care workers. The first doses of swine flu vaccine will be available beginning next week. Much of it is reserved for state health care workers, but there is growing opposition to required innoculations.
    Health care workers in Hauppauge screamed "No forced shots!" as they rallied Tuesday against the state regulation requiring them to roll up their sleeves.
    "I don't even tend to the sick. I am in the nutrition field. They are telling me I must get the shot because I work in a health clinic setting," said Paula Small, a Women, Infants and Children health care worker.
    Small said she will refuse, worried the vaccine is untested and unproven, leaving her vulnerable. In 1976, there were some deaths associated with a swine flu vaccination.
    Registered nurse Frank Mannino, 50, was also angry. He said the state regulation violates his personal freedom and civil rights.
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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

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    I say hell yeah!!!! Go for them!
    I absolutely agree

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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

    I am all for employment standards, but would agree, this is over the top.

    This would probably be better received if they made it seem like a privilege. Also, do it when employees are at work, as part of a paid break. Incentive works much better than a heavy hand.
    Last edited by Midwest Lib; 09-29-09 at 09:34 PM.

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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

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    I say hell yeah!!!! Go for them!
    Ya, if they're actually requiring nutritionists and others who don't tend to the sick to get the vaccine, that's pretty ****ing retarded.

    However, I don't have any problem with the state forcing medical personnel who ARE around sick people to get the vaccine. It's a public health hazard for them NOT to get it.
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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

    How illegal is it to force people to take these vaccines? It's purdy illegal, but I don't know how illegal. Anyone wanna tell us how illegal this is?
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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

    This is crossing the line. I can just feel the industry standard being pushed into government on this one. Say hello to the fear mongering flu establishment. There is a slippery slope indeed.

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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

    I was at the protest today in Albany, hopefully the clowns in the legislator got the message.
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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

    I happen to remember 1976 and the fear tactics they used to get us to take Swine flu shots that ended up killing 30 people that we know of for sure and who knows how many others were not counted. There were over 500 people who had negative reactions from mild to extremely severe and again those were the ones reported and there had to be 10 times this many who just suffered at home until they recovered. Dr. Leonard Horowitz says this vaccine is dangerous scam. Natural Health News: Dangerous, Deadly H1N1 Vaccine Scam
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    The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act: An Assault on Civil Liberties
    The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act: An Assault on Civil Liberties in the Name of Homeland Security

    A THREAT TO FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS

    Under the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, upon the declaration of a "public health emergency," governors and public health officials would be empowered to:

    1. Force individuals suspected of harboring an "infectious disease" to undergo medical examinations.
    2. Track and share an individual's personal health information, including genetic information.
    3. Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases.
    4. Mandate that all health care providers report all cases of persons who harbor any illness or health condition that may be caused by an epidemic or an infectious agent and might pose a "substantial risk" to a "significant number of people or cause a long-term disability." (Note: Neither "substantial risk" nor "significant number" are defined in the draft.)
    5. Force pharmacists to report any unusual or any increased prescription rates that may be caused by epidemic diseases.
    6. Preempt existing state laws, rules and regulations, including those relating to privacy, medical licensure, and--this is key--property rights.
    7. Control public and private property during a public health emergency, including pharmaceutical manufacturing plants, nursing homes, other health care facilities, and communications devices.
    8. Mobilize all or any part of the "organized militia into service to the state to help enforce the state's orders."
    9. Ration firearms, explosives, food, fuel and alcoholic beverages, among other commodities.
    10. Impose fines and penalties to enforce their orders.

    As you can imagine, citizens across the country--at least the ones who were informed about it--were quite concerned about this model legislation. The American Legislative Exchange Council and other groups immediately began tracking the issue and reporting on how such legislation could affect citizens' individual freedoms and property rights. As Time magazine recently reported, gun activists were some of the strongest and most influential opponents.
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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

    People need to be responsible for their own healthcare choices. If someone feels the swine flu vaccine is a necessity for themselves and their family, then does it make sense for them to mandate someone else to get the vaccine, or would it be more logical for them to get the vaccine for themselves?

    Healthcare workers have a right to make their own healthcare decisions based on their personal health philosophy. Patients need to take more responsibility for their own health, something sorely lacking in healthcare today.

    And politicians should quit trying to score cheap political points at the expense of the rights of healthcare workers.

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    Re: N.Y. Health Care Workers Revolt Over H1N1 Vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    People need to be responsible for their own healthcare choices. If someone feels the swine flu vaccine is a necessity for themselves and their family, then does it make sense for them to mandate someone else to get the vaccine, or would it be more logical for them to get the vaccine for themselves?

    Healthcare workers have a right to make their own healthcare decisions based on their personal health philosophy. Patients need to take more responsibility for their own health, something sorely lacking in healthcare today.

    And politicians should quit trying to score cheap political points at the expense of the rights of healthcare workers.
    The only problem with that is that if health care workers are constantly exposed to sick people, they most likely will contract swine flu if they aren't vaccinated. And when they do, they're very likely to pass it along to other patients who came in for something else (including a swine flu vaccine). This can be dangerous.

    But I agree that a blanket rule, such as making nutritionists get vaccinated, is ridiculous.
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