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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by seanyboy View Post
    A video released earlier to day show a community organizing group praying to Barack Obama about health care. After each part of the prayer they shout "Hear our cries Obama". What in the world is the country coming to when we start praying to our leaders.

    Praying to Obama
    really? how could that be? one time the INCORRECT slogan doesn't even match what what's it's attempting to portray....."deliver us obama" describes the words "hear us oh god".

    do you have some proof that the group added the captions? this is crap.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This is a good illustration between the difference between men running things and women running things.

    Men: "Let's blow **** up!"
    Other men: "COOL! Good idea!"
    Well you know how women got their name, don't ya? Man said watch me do ?? (something really stupid) and she said 'Wo man', you really shouldn't do that.


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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    You clearly didn't get past the god awful trumpet.
    i don't hear it. did you listen without the captions?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't hear it. did you listen without the captions?
    I didn't see any captions.

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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Really smart dudes come up with some bloody awful ideas. I think even Carl Sagan was in on the macho plot to detonate a nuke on the moon back in the day.

    The mission, "A mushroom cloud so large it could be seen on Earth."

    It would be funny if it weren't true.

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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't hear it. did you listen without the captions?
    No. Jesus. You think I got passed that horn blowing? I couldn't take the video in full thus the hijack.

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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Have you been watching the documentary on our national parks? Imagine what would have happened to Yellowstone if it hadn't been protected. We should be treating the moon as an international park.

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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Have you been watching the documentary on our national parks? Imagine what would have happened to Yellowstone if it hadn't been protected. We should be treating the moon as an international park.
    At the very least we should man it before we start orchestrating a man made monument to the Grand Canyon.

    Let's just hope it doesn't look too cool. Or they'll do it again.

    I wonder what stopped them from detonating a nuke on the moon during the cold war. I wonder if the men reasoned out on their own that it might not be a good idea or if their wives just bitch nagged them to death and withheld sex till they gave up the mission.

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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Yeah but this new mission isn't about crash landing some debris on the surface. It is about launching a Centaur rocket deep into the moon creating a huge explosion and modifying the surface of the moon in that area.
    Is your problem then the scale, rather than the impact? It's still completely insignificant. The moon is very large, and there isn't anything there except for impact craters. The impact from the rocket is no bigger than millions of others. What's the problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The purpose is supposedly to find water - which India already has.
    It was recently confirmed that there is water on the Moon, this is true. The LCROSS mission was launched months before this confirmation. Even if there were any reason to call it off now, that would be impossible. The spacecraft encountered a problem in August in which it lost about half of its fuel. There is barely enough to complete the current mission, far less abort and avoid the lunar surface altogether

    The big deal for me is two fold. Firstly, the lack of collective knowledge, interest, and discussion surrounding the event despite it's being 9 days away. No media discussion for something that's unprecedented and rather historic.
    The lack of public interest in space matters is sad, I agree. This is a general feature of our society and as nothing to do with LCROSS.

    Second, I think there's a ton of ramifications for this type of act which warranted addressing/discussing. We're essentially launching a rocket into the moon. That, in my mind, constitutes a weapon in space
    Intent matters. Anything can be a weapon if you use it as such. This is a purely scientific mission and reading anything else into it is missing the point.

    and modifying a celestial body
    "Modifying a celestial body" is what happened each and every of the other dozens of times in which we have piloted spacecraft or other objects into asteroids, planets, moons, and anything else of scientific interest that's out there. Everything in space is constantly being pelted by countless bits of matter of every size. That's just what happens. If you're concerned about the Moon I assure you, this is nothing that hasn't happened billions of times in the past and is nothing more than what will happen billions of times in the future regardless of man's actions. The only difference is that we have a satellite observing this in a planned fashion.

    - both of which I bet we'd have a problem with if any other country was doing it.
    I will point you once more to the Japanese probe that impacted the moon in June

    Since India has just this month proven there is in fact water on the moon there is no need for a destructive rocket attack against the planet.
    As I've stated before, the mission is well past committed. You can't just hit the brakes and turn it around. Even if that were possible, there is still plenty to be learned from directly observing a lunar impact, and the mission holds considerable scientific value even if it won't be the one to definitively answer the media-friendly question of the existence of lunar water

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    Re: Praying to Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Is your problem then the scale, rather than the impact? It's still completely insignificant. The moon is very large, and there isn't anything there except for impact craters. The impact from the rocket is no bigger than millions of others. What's the problem?

    It was recently confirmed that there is water on the Moon, this is true. The LCROSS mission was launched months before this confirmation. Even if there were any reason to call it off now, that would be impossible. The spacecraft encountered a problem in August in which it lost about half of its fuel. There is barely enough to complete the current mission, far less abort and avoid the lunar surface altogether

    The lack of public interest in space matters is sad, I agree. This is a general feature of our society and as nothing to do with LCROSS.

    Intent matters. Anything can be a weapon if you use it as such. This is a purely scientific mission and reading anything else into it is missing the point.

    "Modifying a celestial body" is what happened each and every of the other dozens of times in which we have piloted spacecraft or other objects into asteroids, planets, moons, and anything else of scientific interest that's out there. Everything in space is constantly being pelted by countless bits of matter of every size. That's just what happens. If you're concerned about the Moon I assure you, this is nothing that hasn't happened billions of times in the past and is nothing more than what will happen billions of times in the future regardless of man's actions. The only difference is that we have a satellite observing this in a planned fashion.

    I will point you once more to the Japanese probe that impacted the moon in June

    As I've stated before, the mission is well past committed. You can't just hit the brakes and turn it around. Even if that were possible, there is still plenty to be learned from directly observing a lunar impact, and the mission holds considerable scientific value even if it won't be the one to definitively answer the media-friendly question of the existence of lunar water
    Plus, it will make a really cool video!

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