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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Gets advice from many people...that are actually there in the field? And "passing on views"...
    I would say the Joint Chiefs are well aware of McChrytal views & pass them along to the President all the time.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I would say the Joint Chiefs are well aware of McChrytal views & pass them along to the President all the time.
    It doesn't matter. McChrystal seems to be somewhat complaining about his lack of contact with the President. Taking a look at the folks that have gained an audience with Obama as of late adds to the validity and merit of McChrystal's public whine. Priorities are out of whack - clearly. It's pretty indefensible. Plus I personally am offended that the President has not yet addressed the union on our plans to explode a rocket into the moon creating a hole the size of a football field. I think that's a decision that warrants at the very least a collective discussion. I find it atrocious that I know what Obama thinks about Kanye West and I've never heard him say squat about the rocket that's currently en route to the moon. The striking of a celestial body at the very least deserves time in the spotlight - no matter how rot the media has gotten.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    It doesn't matter. McChrystal seems to be somewhat complaining about his lack of contact with the President. Taking a look at the folks that have gained an audience with Obama as of late adds to the validity and merit of McChrystal's public whine. Priorities are out of whack - clearly. It's pretty indefensible. Plus I personally am offended that the President has not yet addressed the union on our plans to explode a rocket into the moon creating a hole the size of a football field. I think that's a decision that warrants at the very least a collective discussion. I find it atrocious that I know what Obama thinks about Kanye West and I've never heard him say squat about the rocket that's currently en route to the moon. The striking of a celestial body at the very least deserves time in the spotlight - no matter how rot the media has gotten.
    Amazing isn't it? Fox News/GOP will bash Obama no matter what he does or doesn't do anyway, right?

    (remember last year when McCain admonished Obama for never having gone to Iraq to talk with the generals?......Obama goes & then McCain (GOP & Fox News) complain the he (Obama) should be campaigning right here in the U.S.......instead of gallivanting around the world!)

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Amazing isn't it? Fox News/GOP will bash Obama no matter what he does or doesn't do anyway, right?

    (remember last year when McCain admonished Obama for never having gone to Iraq to talk with the generals?......Obama goes & then McCain (GOP & Fox News) complain the he (Obama) should be campaigning right here in the U.S.......instead of gallivanting around the world!)
    Completely off-topic. Care to put down your liberal playbook and comment on the actual topic at hand? I know divert, divert, divert is in your playbook, but...
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    I don't really understand McChrystal's chain of command. I guess I thought the Pres talked most frequently w/ SecDef, JtChiefs, and Petreaus. Is this atypical?


    I mean, people don't think Obama is ignoring the war, do they? Doesn't Obama get intelligence, war, and economic briefings every day?


    Somehow I think the Gen will get to talk to the Pres more often now tho

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I don't really understand McChrystal's chain of command. I guess I thought the Pres talked most frequently w/ SecDef, JtChiefs, and Petreaus. Is this atypical?


    I mean, people don't think Obama is ignoring the war, do they? Doesn't Obama get intelligence, war, and economic briefings every day?


    Somehow I think the Gen will get to talk to the Pres more often now tho
    This is the key thing. It's not like Obama does not know what McChrystal's views are, he just is not meeting with him, and allowing the chain of command to work. It's just a style thing. It is actually probably best in fact, since Obama having no military experience, it is handy to have McCHrystal's views readily analyzed by military experts when they get to the president.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I don't really understand McChrystal's chain of command. I guess I thought the Pres talked most frequently w/ SecDef, JtChiefs, and Petreaus. Is this atypical?


    I mean, people don't think Obama is ignoring the war, do they? Doesn't Obama get intelligence, war, and economic briefings every day?


    Somehow I think the Gen will get to talk to the Pres more often now tho
    As a matter of fact Fox News interviewed Bush's JCS chairman (Richard something??) today & he said that most Presidents get their info from the Chiefs, not local commanders anyway.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is the key thing. It's not like Obama does not know what McChrystal's views are, he just is not meeting with him, and allowing the chain of command to work. It's just a style thing.
    Probably, I would not be overly concerned about the lack of meetings at this point.

    It is actually probably best in fact, since Obama having no military experience, it is handy to have McCHrystal's views readily analyzed by military experts when they get to the president.
    We have to be careful with this, as it can be a double edged sword. The CIA and other intel groups sometimes work like this and the raw intel coming from the field gets politicized and distorted as it moves up the chain resulting in the President getting wrong or bad information.

    Not saying this is what is happened in the Army, but it is something we need to watch out for.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post

    We have to be careful with this, as it can be a double edged sword. The CIA and other intel groups sometimes work like this and the raw intel coming from the field gets politicized and distorted as it moves up the chain resulting in the President getting wrong or bad information.

    Not saying this is what is happened in the Army, but it is something we need to watch out for.
    Yes, this is true and accurate, but impossible for us to determine whether it is an actual issue at the moment.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Amazing isn't it? Fox News/GOP will bash Obama no matter what he does or doesn't do anyway, right?

    (remember last year when McCain admonished Obama for never having gone to Iraq to talk with the generals?......Obama goes & then McCain (GOP & Fox News) complain the he (Obama) should be campaigning right here in the U.S.......instead of gallivanting around the world!)
    Your selective outrage has been noted; at least SOME media outlet is questioning the vast stupidity going on in Government right now.

    But how amusing that you complain about Fox News yet during the campaign of stupidity and anti-Iraq War BS spewed for the last six years by the NY Times, LA Times and Washington Post, you probably thought all that criticism of the Administration was patriotic while men and women were getting blown up by roadside bombs and the critics mimed the prophesy and strategy of Osama Bin Laden.

    I would laugh if it were not so offensive and stupid/misguided.

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