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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Would you not think it wise and responsible to actually talk to the Commander in the theatre?
    He has.

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    And if he had made this decision from a single 'teleconference' with Petreaus or Odierno....I'd call him irresponsible..
    Since he hasn't made any decision yet, your point is moot.

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    Can he set priorities, is the question.
    It appears to me that he can.

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    Sending inspectors to do what, inspect the secret site Iran has been hiding? Please. .
    What do you suggest? Shouldn't sanctions and inspections be tried before bombs and war?

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    So...when he wanted it rammed through by August recess..that wasn't being a dictator?
    A dictator would have "rammed it through".

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

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    Sounds like something Eisenhower would have done. Anyone remember him? Or is the hypocrisy showing again?

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Obama gets advise from many people all the time. The Joint Chiefs obviously know what the field commanders views are & regularly pass them along to the President.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Yes, I would hope such a drastic change in policy would be weighed carefully by the commander by in chief, how long did Bush take to decide to try "the surge" in iraq?
    And there were numerous conservatives, myself included, that complained that it took far too long. I heard so many from the left claiming that the surge wouldn't work - and what do you know - it has!

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    The HC bills are being worked on in congress, so unless you want to appoint Obama dictator, he will have to work with the other branches of govt in getting legislation passed.
    They were written by special interests, not our elected officials.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Obama gets advise from many people all the time. The Joint Chiefs obviously know what the field commanders views are & regularly pass them along to the President.
    You're right! He gets advice from communists (Van Jones) - oh wait, he was exposed and is not longer advising the President in an "official" manner any more.
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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    And there were numerous conservatives, myself included, that complained that it took far too long. I heard so many from the left claiming that the surge wouldn't work - and what do you know - it has!
    Admittedly, the situation in Iraq was/is different than the situation in Afghanistan, and more troops does not automatically equate to success, especially given the tribal schisms and the lack of (really ever) a strong central government, and the "safe" areas across the border.

    From a practical standpoint though, if the President gave the order today to send more soldiers they would not arrive until December/January, when, at least historically, the fighting in Afghanistan is pretty low. So really, the thinking is most likely, there is still some time to make a decision because when the soldiers could still be in country when they would be needed even if a decision is pushed down the road for the short term.

    Additionally, I think the elections caught the White House by surprise. The soldier sent in back in March were supposed to make sure all of that went smoothly, and in theory there could then be a smooth transition. Given that that has not exactly happened, it does makes sense that a new strategy would be in the works.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    He has.
    Oh I know. Once.

    Since he hasn't made any decision yet, your point is moot.
    Oh I know. Like Gitmo. Like Afghanistan. Like prosecutions on previous admin officials or CIA employees.....pretty telling huh?

    It appears to me that he can.
    Probably appears that way to everyone who think the Olympics being held in Chicago are the priority these days.

    What do you suggest? Shouldn't sanctions and inspections be tried before bombs and war?
    What do you suggest as sanctions and inspections have already been tried.

    A dictator would have "rammed it through".
    Oh i know, that darned Constitution, Obama must hate it. Do you?

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    That is freaking crazy. I wonder if Obama's talked to any of the folks over at NASA who are gonna blow a hole in the moon with a rocket come Oct. Bet he hasn't talked to them either.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Obama gets advise from many people all the time. The Joint Chiefs obviously know what the field commanders views are & regularly pass them along to the President.
    Gets advice from many people...that are actually there in the field? And "passing on views"...no doubt how the health care and stimulus and car manufacturer take overs were done as well. Advisors "passing along" information.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Um, Eisenhower was a general himself, in fact he was the Supreme Allied Commander, the idea that he would need further advice on war fighting efforts in Vietnam simply isn't the same thing as a two term state senator, a half a term federal Senator and a Harvard law professor not needing such advice. Not to mention that as POTUS only employed peace keeping forces in Lebanon and military advisers in Vietnam, he never had a war during his Presidency.
    That would be Korea. JFK started Vietnam.

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    Re: McChrystal Talked With Obama Only Once

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    That is freaking crazy. I wonder if Obama's talked to any of the folks over at NASA who are gonna blow a hole in the moon with a rocket come Oct. Bet he hasn't talked to them either.

    Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.
    Bush supposedly met with his Generals every week for briefings and meetings.

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