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    Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Fearful that they're losing ground on immigration and health care, a group of House Democrats is pushing back and arguing that any health care bill should extend to all legal immigrants and allow illegal immigrants some access.

    The Democrats, trying to stiffen their party's spines on the contentious issue, say it's unfair to bar illegal immigrants from paying their own way in a government-sponsored exchange. Legal immigrants, they say, regardless of how long they've been in the United States, should be able to get government-subsidized health care if they meet the other eligibility requirements.
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    The whole health care "debate" is so ****ed up. Illegals need to be kicked out.
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Even if we allow illegals access for life or death situations and nothing more, that can be twisted around. If Obama allows this, Wilson would be right about his outburst.

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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Given that illegals currently use the costly ER for most everything and anything and given that the ERs in the country basically treat anyone who walks through the door whether they have ins or not, (illegal or not), it's arguably more cost effective to just include them in any plans vs. not. No?

    If we're gonna pay for them one way or another I'd rather just fund regular cheaper dr. visits vs the ER for all their colds and sniffles.
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Given that illegals currently use the costly ER for most everything and anything and given that the ERs in the country basically treat anyone who walks through the door whether they have ins or not, (illegal or not), it's arguably more cost effective to just include them in any plans vs. not. No?

    If we're gonna pay for them one way or another I'd rather just fund regular cheaper dr. visits vs the ER for all their colds and sniffles.
    Financially, yes, but will they really go to an actual doctor? Will a doctor with an established practice want to take on illegals as patients?
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
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    I don't care if they allow legal immigrants access to health care. But illegal immigrants? Hell no.
    I never heard anything about an issue with legal immigrants. They get the same as everyone else that I've seen.
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Illegals, in the West at least, already have access through farm workers clinics.

    This is all a moot point. I've seen illegals on dialysis. They have access.

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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Illegals, in the West at least, already have access through farm workers clinics.

    This is all a moot point. I've seen illegals on dialysis. They have access.
    This is about insurance, regardless of access to healthcare. It's about control.
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    a group of House Democrats is pushing back and arguing that any health care bill should extend to all legal immigrants and allow illegal immigrants some access.
    Have these clowns been asleep for the past few months? Are they trying to get voted out?
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Now really -- is anyone surprised?

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