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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

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    That always sounds good on paper or written into "Feel Good" legislation but stopping illegal border crossing is virtually impossible to achieve.
    That's not a reason to completely ignore the problem though. It's impossible to completely stop any particular crime, doesn't mean we don't enforce it when appropriate.

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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

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    That's not a reason to completely ignore the problem though.
    I'm paying attention right now.

    How do we stop illegals ? (we already have an expensive Border Patrol police infrastructure in place but that's doesn't even make a dent in the problem)
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'm paying attention right now.

    How do we stop illegals ? (we already have an expensive Border Patrol police infrastructure in place but that's doesn't even make a dent in the problem)

    1st we need to make it illegal to employ, rent to, sell real estate to, bank with, etc. anyone that is in this country illegally with a $10,000 per head fine and/or up to 5 years prison term per illegal alien hired, rented to, sold to, banked with, etc.

    2nd We need to give employers, real estate agents, home owners, bankers, etc. a system such as e-verify to check citizenship status of ALL present and future employees, etc.... give employers, etc. 2 weeks to conform to all employment, etc. laws.

    3rd we need to deport any illegal alien found in this country and make it a felony to aid or abbet any illegal alien. That would include treating them in an ER without reporting them or selling/renting them property, or opening a bank account for.

    We could call this the "Go home bill"... and yes, I would be an equal opportunity racist, I would insist that the bill be applied to everyone.

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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    1st we need to make it illegal to employ, rent to, sell real estate to, bank with, etc. anyone that is in this country illegally with a $10,000 per head fine and/or up to 5 years prison term per illegal alien hired, rented to, sold to, banked with, etc.

    2nd We need to give employers, real estate agents, home owners, bankers, etc. a system such as e-verify to check citizenship status of ALL present and future employees, etc.... give employers, etc. 2 weeks to conform to all employment, etc. laws.

    3rd we need to deport any illegal alien found in this country and make it a felony to aid or abbet any illegal alien. That would include treating them in an ER without reporting them or selling/renting them property, or opening a bank account for.

    We could call this the "Go home bill"... and yes, I would be an equal opportunity racist, I would insist that the bill be applied to everyone.
    I actually agree with parts of your first 2 points but don't think they're realistic, due to politics. ( Illegals are a cheap source of labor for business (GOP likes them for that) & a ready base of votes/money for the liberal side (Dems like them for that)..So there is little REAL desire to get rid of them from either side of the aisle. As far as this is concerned: ..."make it a felony to aid or abbet any illegal alien". ..You would have to jail Mitt Romney (possible GOP nominee for President in 2012) who used illegals for yard work on his mansion in Mass.

    As far as your 3rd suggestion is concerned i think it is impossible to actually do unless we spent all our tax money to do it. (Eeven then I think it would fail)

    It's something politicians will pay lip service to but there is no effort to hange anything for real.
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I actually agree with parts of your first 2 points but don't think they're realistic, due to politics. ( Illegals are a cheap source of labor for business (GOP likes them for that) & a ready base of votes/money for the liberal side (Dems like them for that)..So there is little REAL desire to get rid of them from either side of the aisle. As far as this is concerned: ..."make it a felony to aid or abbet any illegal alien". ..You would have to jail Mitt Romney who used illegals for hardworking on his mansion in Mass.

    As far as your 3rd suggestion is concerned i think it is impossible to actually do unless we spent all our tax money to do it. (Eeven then I think it would fail)

    It's something politicians will pay lip service to but there is no effort to hange anything for real.
    If we get the right people in office, it is possible that the federal government will actually do its proper job, although I can see why you are doubtful.

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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    We could call this the "Go home bill"...
    I LIKE IT!

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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    We have plenty of laws now, all we have to do is enforce them.
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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

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    If we get the right people in office, it is possible that the federal government will actually do its proper job, although I can see why you are doubtful.
    I think we better start looking for these "Right People" on Mars then..... because I doubt we're ever going to find them here on Earth.

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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

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    I think we better start looking for these "Right People" on Mars then..... because I doubt we're ever going to find them here on Earth.
    The right people are those who understand why they take a vow to protect and defend the constitution... I'm sure they're out there, but in the mean time we should all at least slow down the process by not voting for democrats.


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    Re: Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    The right people are those who understand why they take a vow to protect and defend the constitution... I'm sure they're out there, but in the mean time we should all at least slow down the process by not voting for democrats.

    You spelled Republicans wrong....It's R E P U B L I C A N ..!

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