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    Re: Iran 'concealed nuclear facility'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Actually, no, we've discussed the allegation that such a threat was issued at length long before you arrived here, and it was found lacking, not least of which because no such idiom as "wiped off the map" even exists in Farsi, which just might be a clue that something is amiss. If the president was speaking of a specific regime, he should have specified it, as the phrase "the regime occupying Jerusalem" does. However, he chose to speak of a country being "wiped off the map" instead, which is illustrative either of his mental imbalance, chronic stupidity, or both.
    So did Sarkozy, and many other world leaders, as they understand that the difference does not really matter to the end result.
    If you wish to argue semantics, in the president's reply to the Iranian threat, he merely said "you can be removed as well", thus, implying that the Iranian regime will be removed, and not the Iranian nation as a whole.
    I've never offered any support for the terrorists Menachem Begin or Yitzhak Shamir, and thus cannot fathom what you're talking about.
    I was speaking about your support for a regime that directly assists and even controls terror organizations in Lebanon, the Gaza Strip, Afghanistan and Iraq.
    This is a very concerning act you are taking here, perhaps some would say an act directed against humanity as a whole?
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    Re: Iran 'concealed nuclear facility'

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    So did Sarkozy, and many other world leaders, as they understand that the difference does not really matter to the end result. If you wish to argue semantics, in the president's reply to the Iranian threat, he merely said "you can be removed as well", thus, implying that the Iranian regime will be removed, and not the Iranian nation as a whole.
    Actually, no, the remark was "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map," which is fairly unambiguous in nature, and contains no reference to a specific political regime, as the Iranian president's comment did, and also contains an insinuation of an active threat through the phrase "wiped off the map," as the Iranian president's comment did not. Adjust your reading spectacles, dear chap!

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I was speaking about your support for a regime that directly assists and even controls terror organizations in Lebanon, the Gaza Strip, Afghanistan and Iraq.
    This is a very concerning act you are taking here, perhaps some would say an act directed against humanity as a whole?
    There's no support for any such regime on my part, nor would support for such regime rank anywhere near the bottom of the actions committed by U.S. political administrations in terms of the morality of policy. I'm merely pointing out that it's necessary to maintain a counterbalance so as to prevent unjust aggression by the ruling administration of a state with a concealed nuclear arsenal.

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    Re: Iran 'concealed nuclear facility'

    Now that we know they're cheating and not merely spinning uranium for energy purposes....what say we celebrate Halloween at Natanz this year? Or Bushewr. I promote an Osirak like fireworks show, use a few Israelis to drop in for a visit to one of these..."concealed" sites if necessary....either way...we need to have a party in Iran, Ladies and Gentlemen. We drop leaflets for 2 weeks warning civilians to flee, send messages via internet, TV, and radio....and then go shopping for party favors.

    we place this strait up the Iranian Hormuz.

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    Re: Iran 'concealed nuclear facility'

    So where are they getting their yellow cake from?
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    Re: Iran 'concealed nuclear facility'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I believe there was a dictatorial U.S.-supported regime in power in Iran in 1975. Silly misconception of mine, perhaps, but I happen to think it's true.
    Alright, and that "dictatorial U.S.-supported regime" was gone by 1979. So back to my question. If an arms race was going to occur in the region because of an Israeli undeclared nuclear program, why now, instead of 30 years ago, when the same unfriendly regime was in power?

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    Re: Iran 'concealed nuclear facility'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I understand and sympathize with your objection to terrorists like Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir holding high state positions, but really, what can we do?
    We can make the development of nuclear weapons so negative that the negative consequences far outweigh the advantages. The problem with this is that other countries want something in return for supporting the US' goal in this.

    Another option is to blow up there reactors. Hard to make nukes and advance the technology if you can't get the material.
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    Re: Iran 'concealed nuclear facility'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So where are they getting their yellow cake from?
    Saddam gave it to them.

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