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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Senate Democrats, under pressure from a White House arguing separation of powers
    My my...a WH arguing separation of powers. I remember Obama and Hillary and Biden and Reid arguing W wasn't even our Commander in Chief in Iraq, we apparently had 535 Commanders in Chief, not 1. I remember when Bush fired 8 of his own lawyers and the Senate had a cow.

    My my, what a difference an Administration makes.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Feingold To Hold Hearings On Obama's 'Czars'
    Rachel Slajda | September 29, 2009, 5:09PM


    Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), chairman of a Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution, will hold a hearing next week on President Obama's use of "czars."

    Feingold has joined several Republicans and conservative talking heads in criticizing Obama over how many czars he's appointed. The term, although in no official title, applies to positions in the executive branch that don't need the approval of Congress. But several of the "czars" mentioned by Glenn Beck and the like actually have been approved by lawmakers.

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    Feingold To Hold Hearings On Obama's 'Czars' | TPM LiveWire

    Looks like the issue will get looked at, Scorp

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Looks like the issue will get looked at, Scorp
    By a liberal no less
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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    By a liberal no less

    Yea, I've heard Feingold talk about this before.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Looks like the issue will get looked at, Scorp
    from your linked article:

    Feingold is running for re-election next year.

    The attack of these czars, at town halls and right-wing events, has been a conservative crowd-pleaser.
    At least we can understand his motivation for wasting time on this.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    from your linked article:



    At least we can understand his motivation for wasting time on this.

    Yea, I did see that quote in there. I just don't think that's his motivation. I am thinking back to his speeches when he was advocating censure of Pres Bush. I don't know, I don't follow Feingold closely enough to say for sure, but my gut says it's not just politics with him. Could be wrong!

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Yea, I did see that quote in there. I just don't think that's his motivation. I am thinking back to his speeches when he was advocating censure of Pres Bush. I don't know, I don't follow Feingold closely enough to say for sure, but my gut says it's not just politics with him. Could be wrong!
    I cannot see it as anything but politics. It's not like this little subcommittee is actually going to do anything about czars.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Wow is all I have to say, typical for this White House who has ate evry step go around the US Consititution. The Funny thing is this the White House and the Democrat might have biting off more then they can chew with dishing Sen. Collins she is one of the few Moderate Republicans that might vote with the Deocrates on the Health Issue but I don't see this happen now as amtter of fact I can see Suan going after the Deocrats hard. Knowing Susan the way i do I can tell you this I'm 97% SURE SHE IS PISSED AND WHEN SHE IS PISSED WATCH OUT. aSK ANY ONE FROM MAINE.
    Scorp it's obvious by now that you haven't bothered to even read the constitution since you still think that the house and senate confirm presidentially appointed officers. I suggest you reread Article 2 Section 2 of the constitution again. The constitution makes it very clear that the power to the president to appoint inferior officers lies with the president alone.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    If they did I don't recall it being at the fevered pitch we are now hearing from Republicans.
    Yet there is no fevered pitch from Republicans and much of the concern is coming from fellow Democrats.

    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    Although I voted for Obama and still support most of his agenda I was never under the impression he would deliver on all his campaign pledges. Granted Obama did spin a certain amount of BS into his campaign, that's to be expected. I've yet to see anyone who campaigned for president deliver as advertised on all their talking points used to sway voters. By that measure I'll agree that there wasn't much change.

    Everyone has their own perception on what they expected from Obama but I'm still confident that when the smoke clears from the tough choices he had to make from day one his "change" will show he made the right choices.
    I always wondered how someone as naive and inexperienced as Obama could get elected.

    The above is a testimony of how uninformed Liberal Democrats with the economic knowledge of a lemming get elected to political office and mess the US economy up with their misguided "feel-good" partisan policies.

    By the way, I am taking bets that by the time the smoke clears from this economic disaster of an Administration; most will be scratching their heads wondering how they could have been so gullible as to elect this economic derelict to high office.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    DING DING DING! We have a winner. Some on the right have to bitch about every possible imaginable thing. Logic, history, reality, those things do not matter to these people, they just want to throw a fit.
    This post reeks of irony. But don't take my word for it, look at the FACTS:

    But none has embraced the concept, presidential scholars say, to the extent that Obama has.

    Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) became concerned enough to send a cautionary letter to Obama last week. At times, he said, past White House staffers have assumed duties that should be the responsibility of officials cleared through the Senate confirmation process. He cited President Bush's naming of homeland security czar Tom Ridge as an example.


    President Obama's czar system concerns some - Los Angeles Times

    Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin joined the anti-czar chorus Wednesday, asking Obama to detail the roles and responsibilities of all of the czars in his administration and to explain why he believes the use of czars is consistent with the Senate’s constitutional power to offer advice and consent on top-level executive branch officials.

    “To the extent that this undercuts that role and people are put in the place of Cabinet people and really are the key authorities and you can’t question them, that’s something worth talking about,” Feingold said. “I think it’s a fair point.”


    White House Blog: Of 32 “Czars” On Beck?s List, Only Nine Confirmed By Senate

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein said in an interview Wednesday that there needs to be better Senate oversight, although she was quick to add that some czar critics have incorrectly labeled a number of Senate-confirmed administration officials as White House czars.

    Feinstein said she thinks it’s a “problem” when the White House appoints someone to a czar position that is not clearly defined. “I don’t know what a car czar does, for example,” she said.

    Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) also noted Wednesday that other presidents have made use of czars, but he said that there may be a limit to what they should be allowed to do. “My expectation would be that if you have people with line responsibility, you need to have confirmation,” he said.

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