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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I was just addressing the factual error. I just made another post about the amendment.

    I think something will be done to address the oversight issue. I think Susan's got an ally in Wisconsin Sen Feingold. He's been making news talking about it too.

    I wonder if the wording or scope of the proposed amendment was too broad, perhaps?
    Not really I read it and it was rather to the point, I think the White House doesn't want to answer to Congress on this subject. While in the past the Czars have gone with out much to do because they have been rather safe choice but you have to admit some of the folks that Mr. Obama has put in place should have never been given any Govn. Job and most of them would never have passed a Sub-Committee review and full vote in Congress.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

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    Not really I read it and it was rather to the point, I think the White House doesn't want to answer to Congress on this subject. While in the past the Czars have gone with out much to do because they have been rather safe choice but you have to admit some of the folks that Mr. Obama has put in place should have never been given any Govn. Job and most of them would never have passed a Sub-Committee review and full vote in Congress.

    I don't know. On the one hand, the executive branch has the right to appt Special Assistants (isn't that what most of these 'czars' are?) and other staffing, but on the other hand if they are truly holding cabinet-level-type positions, then the Senate does have the right to some oversight.

    The lack of oversight during the last administration stuck in my craw, but I think the coverage about all these 'czars' is over the top, and not necessarily addressing the point of relevant oversight.

    I think they should do something, but I don't necessarily know if Susan's amendment was right. I guess I should read more about it.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Here the thing was rep Collins rider would have only stop any new Czars from being appointed and would require all Czars to appear before her and the Sen. Committie every quater to give an update on what they are doing and how they are spending our Tax Dollars. Also they would have to come in and be question just like all other Presidental Advisor.
    This sounds more like an opportunity for a witch hunt to me.

    I think some of you don't understand what is going on. This is Rep. Collins you know one of the 12 who are called on when things need to be work out. Now the White House and Democratic Leadership have basically said FU Susan not smart at all.
    I don't recall her being this concerned about Bush appointments. Despite claims that she is a RINO, it's proposals like this that makes it quite obvious why she is indeed a Republican who can be as partisan as any other politician when it happens to be convenient.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post
    I think the controversy surrounding the Obama "czars" comes mostly from the radical views some of these people hold and the question of do we want people, who are openly communist, or who believe trees should standing in court, or that forced abortions could be a good thing, to be in the White House advising the President.
    You might have a point....if any of this were true. Given that none of it is; welcome to the Hall of Fail.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I don't know. On the one hand, the executive branch has the right to appt Special Assistants (isn't that what most of these 'czars' are?) and other staffing, but on the other hand if they are truly holding cabinet-level-type positions, then the Senate does have the right to some oversight.

    The lack of oversight during the last administration stuck in my craw, but I think the coverage about all these 'czars' is over the top, and not necessarily addressing the point of relevant oversight.

    I think they should do something, but I don't necessarily know if Susan's amendment was right. I guess I should read more about it.
    This is entirely about Susan Collins trying to gain some traction with the wingnut base. Nothing more...nothing less.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    This sounds more like an opportunity for a witch hunt to me.

    DING DING DING! We have a winner. Some on the right have to bitch about every possible imaginable thing. Logic, history, reality, those things do not matter to these people, they just want to throw a fit.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    The whole czar thing as whole is very unsettling, especially when majority of these czars arent needed in the first place.


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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by REO SpeedDealer View Post
    This is entirely about Susan Collins trying to gain some traction with the wingnut base. Nothing more...nothing less.
    Nope not even close do you know Susan I do and I can tell you this she is far from trying to cuddle up to the Wingnutts in the Republican party. If she put this rider on the Bill it was for a good reason. She arrely does anything on a whim.

    I beleive Jackolop will back me up on my knowledge of both Susan and Olympia right Jack

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Nope not even close do you know Susan I do and I can tell you this she is far from trying to cuddle up to the Wingnutts in the Republican party. If she put this rider on the Bill it was for a good reason. She arrely does anything on a whim.

    I beleive Jackolop will back me up on my knowledge of both Susan and Olympia right Jack

    Yes, for sure. I don't think either one of them care to cater to the wingnut wing of the party.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    This sounds more like an opportunity for a witch hunt to me.


    I don't recall her being this concerned about Bush appointments. Despite claims that she is a RINO, it's proposals like this that makes it quite obvious why she is indeed a Republican who can be as partisan as any other politician when it happens to be convenient.
    Very true tumbleweed but then again during the whole 8 Years of Mr. W Bush did he ever have any of the sorted folks as Czars as Mr. Obama has I can't recall any of Mr. W Bush Czars being forced to resign for anything.

    As for Susan conducting a Witch Hunt your kidding right Susan Collins maybe Newt or any other of the republican Nut Jobs but not Susan Collins she does do her own thing which does PO allot of the Republican Leadership sort of like another Maine Republican Margaret Chase Smith.

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