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Senate Democrats Kill GOP Effort to Rein in Obama's Czars

This sounds more like an opportunity for a witch hunt to me.


DING DING DING! We have a winner. Some on the right have to bitch about every possible imaginable thing. Logic, history, reality, those things do not matter to these people, they just want to throw a fit.
 
The whole czar thing as whole is very unsettling, especially when majority of these czars arent needed in the first place.


You forgot to mention that now our Leader is buddies with the leaders of Venezuela and Cuba, Iran has gone nuclear, and Russia is now our friend for not building missile defenses in Europe.

Europe should get off its socialist ass and defend themselves but as much as I would love to believe that the shield is gone, its not, it will come back in some other forum.
 
This is entirely about Susan Collins trying to gain some traction with the wingnut base. Nothing more...nothing less.

Nope not even close do you know Susan I do and I can tell you this she is far from trying to cuddle up to the Wingnutts in the Republican party. If she put this rider on the Bill it was for a good reason. She arrely does anything on a whim.

I beleive Jackolop will back me up on my knowledge of both Susan and Olympia right Jack ;)
 
Nope not even close do you know Susan I do and I can tell you this she is far from trying to cuddle up to the Wingnutts in the Republican party. If she put this rider on the Bill it was for a good reason. She arrely does anything on a whim.

I beleive Jackolop will back me up on my knowledge of both Susan and Olympia right Jack ;)


Yes, for sure. I don't think either one of them care to cater to the wingnut wing of the party.
 
This sounds more like an opportunity for a witch hunt to me.


I don't recall her being this concerned about Bush appointments. Despite claims that she is a RINO, it's proposals like this that makes it quite obvious why she is indeed a Republican who can be as partisan as any other politician when it happens to be convenient.

Very true tumbleweed but then again during the whole 8 Years of Mr. W Bush did he ever have any of the sorted folks as Czars as Mr. Obama has I can't recall any of Mr. W Bush Czars being forced to resign for anything.

As for Susan conducting a Witch Hunt your kidding right Susan Collins maybe Newt or any other of the republican Nut Jobs but not Susan Collins she does do her own thing which does PO allot of the Republican Leadership sort of like another Maine Republican Margaret Chase Smith.
 
Very true tumbleweed but then again during the whole 8 Years of Mr. W Bush did he ever have any of the sorted folks as Czars as Mr. Obama has I can't recall any of Mr. W Bush Czars being forced to resign for anything.
Randall L. Tobias,abstinence czar- sex scandal, Eric J. Keroack,resigned his position at HHS because of prescribing drugs to people who are not his patients and for providing mental health counseling without proper training. There could be others. The point being Obama is no better or worse where these appointments are concerned.

As for Susan conducting a Witch Hunt your kidding right Susan Collins maybe Newt or any other of the republican Nut Jobs but not Susan Collins she does do her own thing which does PO allot of the Republican Leadership sort of like another Maine Republican Margaret Chase Smith.
No, I'm not kidding, and I know her as well as anyone here. Directly or indirectly her proposal would evolve into a witch hunt given the partisan political climate we are seeing coming out of Washington. I think her intention of more oversight may be commendable, but it also plays into the Republican agenda of going against virtually every decision Obama makes. While I doubt she is personally on a witch hunt, her proposal would play into the agenda the Republicans seem to be pursuing, which is to go against every decision Obama makes, including his choices of who he feels is best suited to advise him.
 
You might have a point....if any of this were true. Given that none of it is; welcome to the Hall of Fail.:mrgreen:

Most people did not have a problem with "czars" before now, and most people did not have a problem with Obama "czars" until certain ones radical viewpoints started to become public.
 
Most people did not have a problem with "czars" before now, and most people did not have a problem with Obama "czars" until certain ones radical viewpoints started to become public.

What radical viewpoints?
 
Nope not even close do you know Susan I do and I can tell you this she is far from trying to cuddle up to the Wingnutts in the Republican party.

A year ago I'd have been inclined to agree.....these days, however, the wingnut fringe appears to be all that's left of the GOP. I seriously doubt that Collins expected this bill to actually go anywhere; in all likelihood she was simply going through the motions as an act of political theater.
 
A year ago I'd have been inclined to agree.....these days, however, the wingnut fringe appears to be all that's left of the GOP. I seriously doubt that Collins expected this bill to actually go anywhere; in all likelihood she was simply going through the motions as an act of political theater.

No not really I know Susan very well and she doesn't Cow Tie to the Wingnutts of the republican party, As I have been trying to point out she doesn't go and do something like thios on a whim.

And the way the White House attack this is going to hurt them in the long run trust me on this. They just made an enemy out of both Susan and Olympia and any other Moderate Republican they thought would help them on any Bills.
 
If the Obama administration was the first president to use czars I would be concerned. Czars have been used since at least Reagan and maybe before. This is nothing more than Republican partisan flapping of the political gums today just as it was the Democrats flapping theirs a fews years ago. !!!

I agree it is little more then partisan finger pointing. But I am agaisnt it no matter who is doing it. To say it doesnt matter because both sides do it is the very thing that has put our country into the toliet.
 
....and the unprecedented number being appointed by Obama.

Czars are simply advisors.....no power to do anything other than advise.

I was MUCH more concerned with the unprecedented number of "signing statements" that our last President used, which in actuality was a much more dangerous usurption of power.

Funny.....don't remember you expressing any concern about that.....right deflector?
 
No not really I know Susan very well and she doesn't Cow Tie to the Wingnutts of the republican party, As I have been trying to point out she doesn't go and do something like thios on a whim.

And the way the White House attack this is going to hurt them in the long run trust me on this. They just made an enemy out of both Susan and Olympia and any other Moderate Republican they thought would help them on any Bills.

Are you trying to suggest that you and Senator Collins are close personal friends?
 
You can call all you want but I do have a close personal realationship with both of them, you might say I'm very close to the Family of one of them :mrgreen:

And in what way are you supposedly close to them?
 
And in what way are you supposedly close to them?

Maine is not a big state, and people who care about politics is small subset of the state. I'm not even from here, and I've run into a few people who personally knew Snowe, Collins, and former Rep Allen. I believe him.
 
Maine is not a big state, and people who care about politics is small subset of the state. I'm not even from here, and I've run into a few people who personally knew Snowe, Collins, and former Rep Allen. I believe him.

I'm still suspicious of him being as "close" to them as he tries to suggest. Then again, I'm suspicious of any claim like that made on the internet.
 
I'm still suspicious of him being as "close" to them as he tries to suggest. Then again, I'm suspicious of any claim like that made on the internet.

It's not something you could prove either way, and his arguments should stand, or in this case fail, on their own merits. Whether he is sleeping with one of the Maine senators should be irrelevant to his arguments if he wants to make his points.
 
I'm still suspicious of him being as "close" to them as he tries to suggest. Then again, I'm suspicious of any claim like that made on the internet.

Well, that's true re: the internet !
I do believe him tho. Then again, I'm just another keyboard too :lol:
 
It's not something you could prove either way, and his arguments should stand, or in this case fail, on their own merits. Whether he is sleeping with one of the Maine senators should be irrelevant to his arguments if he wants to make his points.

To be fair I'm not sleeping with either Susan or Olympia but I'm part of the family of one of them so yes I have a very close realationship with them.

I also can say that I know Speak Mitchell rather well also.
 
Well, that's true re: the internet !
I do believe him tho. Then again, I'm just another keyboard too :lol:

Oh you not just another keyboard Jack your another Maine Keyboard :mrgreen:
 
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