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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    cops have been caught so many times sending people to incite crowds, it's seriously like the standard routine when violence breaks out...

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    Infiltrating protest groups with undercover officers is standard police procedure worldwide, he said.
    ...Are not the same thing. Cops infiltrating groups does not mean that they incite riots. Unless you can show a statistic regarding how often violence breaks out and that police started said violence you really don't have anything. *shrugs*
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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    There is no reason to wait for the future to satisfy your fetish since the OP has already gone wild eye rank partisanship !! LOL !! [QUOTE "Also why is it when a bunch of so-called Extreme Right Wing Folks have a March in Washington DC not a single act of violance or any arrest happens but when the idiots on the Left be it these morons or the Anti-Bush Crowd hold a March there is always Arrest and Violance. So who is the side that should be watched allot closer???? .
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    Oh come on 107 I attack both side so how can you sat I was being a Hack beside there is truth in my words.

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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    So do you have actual proof that it was Pitts. Police that were the ones throwing the rocks, and Rolling the Trash Cans, if so then let see the proof or better yet send it to one of the Drive by Media I'm sure they would love such a story. Also let see the proof from Seattle show all of us who the Cops were who started the Fire's and Destruction. You open this can of worms Sir now it's time for you to answer the call if you can.
    No, I carefully stated that I had no proof of this yet.

    Consider that there is also a 'mob mentality' going on at a protest, so maybe a singular cop threw the first rock and the kids followed suit... maybe the kids were paid off beforehand...

    It's far from unprecedented, as I stated, 'standard police practise'. So, while there are times where people get over-excited and get violent, but more often then not it's cops or other 'agents-provocateurs'... any legitimate protest group makes announcements to have a strict non-violence policy.

    Also I suggest you might want to go and read the Us Constitution as I suggest about how and when the Guard/Militia Units can be used. Also I suggest you go and read up on the fact it was the Visiting World Leaders who requested tighter Security do to what happne in Seattle,Brussel,London to just name a few Cities that have hosted the G-20 Summit.

    We will all be waiting for you proof and links
    In America there is... or at least WAS the 'posse comatatis act'... that heavily restricted the use of the army, national guard, etc, except for in emergencies.

    Also, since it's always been police at those events... HOW MANY TIMES did any of those protests breach the barricades?? Yes, there was violence at those events... but hey, since it's admitted worldwide policy to infiltrate protest groups... how much more REALLY needs to be said on the subject??

    It puts into question how much of the violence was from protestors caught in a mob mentality, and how often was the instigation from police? It can no longer be proven one way or the other...

    As for the constitution... how about you remind me the specific section that allows the army to be used as police in non-emergency situations?

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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Anarchists (And other crazy left-wing parties) =/= Democrats. Same can be said for the far far far right and Republicans.

    I thought I would get that out of the way early in this thread.

    I actually listened to it while it was happening here.
    That just about right and the OP has made the point for you before you had to make it in that a right wing partisan has already painted everyone left of center as some sort of left wing viloent whack jobs.
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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post


    As for the constitution... how about you remind me the specific section that allows the army to be used as police in non-emergency situations?
    Since you asked Article I Section 8 go read it

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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    That just about right and the OP has made the point for you before you had to make it in that a right wing partisan has already painted everyone left of center as some sort of left wing viloent whack jobs.
    Oh no no I didn't 107 I ask the question why is it when the So-Called Right Wing Extremist have a march that there is no violance or arrest and when the Left Wing Folks be it this group of morons or the Anti-Bush crowd there is always violance and arrest.

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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    ...Are not the same thing. Cops infiltrating groups does not mean that they incite riots. Unless you can show a statistic regarding how often violence breaks out and that police started said violence you really don't have anything. *shrugs*
    Evan though I do not believe that there are hardily any undercover cops causing riots since there isn't any such thing as the statistics burreau of undercover cop causing riots any more than there is a stat for how mnay undrcover marcs we have.
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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Oh no no I didn't 107 I ask the question why is it when the So-Called Right Wing Extremist have a march that there is no violance or arrest and when the Left Wing Folks be it this group of morons or the Anti-Bush crowd there is always violance and arrest.
    I do not believe that there is ALWAYS violence when "Left Wing Folks " protest. Now there are groups that are viewed as left but they are actually way out whacks, anarachists, and other assorted perverts who are percieved as "left" who are indeed violent. You are partially correct in that the type of groups and individuals who protest the g8, g12, g20' and other G 's tend to be violent. What I saw in your post was the inplication that all "left" group are always viiolent and that is just not true.
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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

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    In America there is... or at least WAS the 'posse comatatis act'... that heavily restricted the use of the army, national guard, etc, except for in emergencies.

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    Once again you don't know what your talking about Posse Comitatus act on;ly applies to the Guard when they are put under the controlof the Federal Govn., in this case the Govn. of Penns. who controls the Guard Units order the Guard to back up the Pitts Police because they need not only to serve and protect the G-20 but they also must actually do there real job protecting the Citz. of Pitts. hence the reason why the Guard Units were call up. This part of there Duty. I suggest you do some more reading on the subject. Start with US Code 18 section 831.

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    Re: G-20 opponents, police clash on Pittsburgh streets

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I'll repeat it, because it's important : STANDARD POLICE PRACTISE!
    The guy is a random investigator. He probably said that to get some attention.

    Also, might I suggest Firefox for your internet browsing needs? It has a built in Spellchecker, perfect for your, well, spell-checking needs.

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