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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What a fascinating argument; Republicans COULD have tried the same thing therefore Hypocrisy goes for all ideologies and let's forget what an OBVIOUS naked display of hyper partisan political hypocrisy for setting a new low standard in US politics these Democrats have committed.


    Surely you don't believe that others are stupid enough to believe that it's the Dems, and only the Dems, who pull partisan s*** like this.

    Here's an example of partisanship exhibited by both sides, but I'm sure you'll find an excuse to bash only the Democrats:

    Messin' with Texas: Tom DeLay's redistricting affair comes to the Supreme Court | National Review | Find Articles at BNET

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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    oh ... I disagree. Because they made a bad move in '04 doesn't mean the state residents should be deprived of a voice in the Senate. Yea, Imma call out the naked politics in '04, but b/c they didn't temper their naked politics with thoughtful forward thinking, doesn't mean it shouldn't be remedied.
    You would have a point if this change had happened at another time. But since it was an OK law, right up till it was not convenient, then it no longer is changing a bad law, it's changing a bad law when it no longer serves it's political end. The result is good, but the means is not.

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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    And not one of them gave a damn about "partisan politics' when they did it.

    Redress I sympathize with you and if we had a good faith GOP today I'd agree with you.

    But at this point in time, being anything but calculating towards the radicalized GOP is counter productive.

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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    And not one of them gave a damn about "partisan politics' when they did it.

    Redress I sympathize with you and if we had a good faith GOP today I'd agree with you.

    But at this point in time, being anything but calculating towards the radicalized GOP is counter productive.
    That is not a road I am willing to go down. To sacrifice my beliefs just to win would make the win not worth it.

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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Most in the State approve of the appointment.

    Pollster.com: MA: 2010 Sen Special (Suffolk 9/12-15)

    I don't see what the problem is. This is Democracy under the guidlines of their State Constitution.

    Elected representatives acted within Constitutional guidlines to change the rules in favor of their Party who control nearly 88% of the legislature.

    88% control along with the Governorship is a CLEAR MANDATE that citizens what Democrats in power.

    Of course right wingers are going to complain about this liberal State now having a voice in the Senate during the healthcare debate!

    Just like they complained when Texas, pushed by Tom Delay, broke with decades of precedent and gerrymandered it's Congressional districts out of turn to help remove Democrats.
    lolwut? Kirk isn't even in that poll.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    I've found that people who complain about "partisan politics" usually don't know much about the issues, civics, government, etc.

    I always ask them what IS this big issue that the right and left should just come together in a spirit of harmony and solve? Give me an example of what this final product would look like?

    If they can attempt to name one, the answers I get almost always involve the Dems caving completely into the demands of the right.

    Like they wish for in the health care debate....Dems you drop the public option and we will let you pass a worthless bill that will make you look stupid in the end.

    See? Isn't that kind of them?

    Folks when your are dealing with radicals (and the GOP today has been taken over by radicals) there is NOTHING wrong with partisan politics.
    There's always something wrong with partisan politics. It gets you idiots. Stupid people unable to think for themselves and instead just tow a party line. They don't research, they don't think about problems, all they do is sit around and wait for their party leader to speak and then regurgitate ad nauseam the talking points. It's how you get people so stupid that they rallied against Bush for doing things they didn't like and then defend Obama for having done the same thing. We don't need more stupid in this country, we're full up.
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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    I've found that people who complain about "partisan politics" usually don't know much about the issues, civics, government, etc.

    I always ask them what IS this big issue that the right and left should just come together in a spirit of harmony and solve? Give me an example of what this final product would look like?

    If they can attempt to name one, the answers I get almost always involve the Dems caving completely into the demands of the right.

    Like they wish for in the health care debate....Dems you drop the public option and we will let you pass a worthless bill that will make you look stupid in the end.

    See? Isn't that kind of them?

    Folks when your are dealing with radicals (and the GOP today has been taken over by radicals) there is NOTHING wrong with partisan politics.
    One can only laugh at the level of willful denial it takes to make the above remarks.

    Here's a clue for your rabid hyper partisan Liberals; Republicans cannot STOP this legislation. Therefore, this is not an issue with Republicans but rather and issue within the Democrat majority where some members are balking at legislation that would nationalize our healthcare system which will result in massive new taxes and increasing an already incredible DEFICIT in an environment where we are in a deep recession, have a massive DEBT obligation and still have not debated how to pay down the $1.6 trillion deficit we already have and climbing.

    It appears that there are enough RATIONAL members of Obama's own party that is saying whoa; I am not sure we can do this right now.

    It is farcical for Liberal Democrats to rant that this is some evil hyper partisan effort by the GOP when they have filibuster proof margins in BOTH houses of Congress and a Democrat President.

    It is as farcical as your hyper emotional partisan rants suggesting that the GOP is a radical element.

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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    One can only laugh at the level of willful denial it takes to make the above remarks.

    Here's a clue for your rabid hyper partisan Liberals; Republicans cannot STOP this legislation. Therefore, this is not an issue with Republicans but rather and issue within the Democrat majority where some members are balking at legislation that would nationalize our healthcare system which will result in massive new taxes and increasing an already incredible DEFICIT in an environment where we are in a deep recession, have a massive DEBT obligation and still have not debated how to pay down the $1.6 trillion deficit we already have and climbing.

    It appears that there are enough RATIONAL members of Obama's own party that is saying whoa; I am not sure we can do this right now.

    It is farcical for Liberal Democrats to rant that this is some evil hyper partisan effort by the GOP when they have filibuster proof margins in BOTH houses of Congress and a Democrat President.

    It is as farcical as your hyper emotional partisan rants suggesting that the GOP is a radical element.
    LoL @ TD calling some one "hyper partisan".

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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Surely you don't believe that others are stupid enough to believe that it's the Dems, and only the Dems, who pull partisan s*** like this.
    Yes that is what I am saying and that is the issue HERE in this thread. Perhaps you should read about it?

    If Republicans tried to pull a blatant politically partisan act like this, I would be joining Democrats denouncing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Here's an example of partisanship exhibited by both sides, but I'm sure you'll find an excuse to bash only the Democrats:

    Messin' with Texas: Tom DeLay's redistricting affair comes to the Supreme Court | National Review | Find Articles at BNET
    I am amazed that you attempt to suggest that this is somehow even remotely at the same level as the thread topic; aside from the efforts you are obviously making to avoid the thread topic.

    The FACT in this case with Tom DeLay is another example of hypocritical hyper partisan Democrats attempting to impugn their political opponents by slinging mud instead of having an honest civil debate on political philosophy.

    This particular case is an out of control State Attorney General who made false assertions, cannot prove them in a court of law and as a result, no charges have been brought to date and none will be brought.

    Tell me what has been the end result of this campaign to impugn a good man with false charges?

    Here is a prediction from me; when this case is finally settled, much like many other Liberal attempts to sling mud at opponents, DeLay will not be charged with any wrong doing.

    Carry on and at least try to address the topic at hand instead of wandering off topic on tangents in a desperate effort to avoid reality.

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    Re: Massachusetts names Kirk to fill Kennedy Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    LoL @ TD calling some one "hyper partisan".
    @ Redress pretending that many on this forum and in Washington are not. By the way, does this comment have a point or address the thread topic?

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