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    Can Obama make Middle East peace?

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    In much the same way that another Lawyer decided that he too could change the world with his rhetoric, Obama will doubtless suffer the same fate as has Tony 'Teflon' Blair.
    Talking the talk is all very well, but unless one can back up the talk with action, all that will happen is the rhetoric fills a few blog sites, occupies a page or two in some paper, makes Obama feels happy with himself, but is largely forgotten by those who hear his pronouncements.

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    Re: Can Obama make Middle East peace?

    Of course not. Only the Israelis and Palestinians are able to do that. When Clinton was president, Arafat didn't want to make peace. When Bush was president, Hamas and Hezbollah were able to command enough authority to prevent peace. Now that Obama is president, Bibi doesn't want to make peace.

    For Israel and Palestine to make peace, the stars have to line up perfectly. You need an Israeli leader interested in peace and a Palestinian leader interested in peace, both of whom are able to command enough authority among their respective people to make it happen. The President of the United States doesn't really factor into it IMO.
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    Re: Can Obama make Middle East peace?

    No one can make peace in the Mid-East. Eventually Israel will be over run by Arabs. They have way more people and a much higher birthrate.

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    Re: Can Obama make Middle East peace?

    Obama is basically a non-factor in world affairs. Unfortunately, he is causing the country to be seen that way too.
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    Re: Can Obama make Middle East peace?

    Peace in the mideast, that is a lasting peace, is highly improbable.

    If I were President, I would be the first in a long time to NOT call for "peace in the mideast". Might as well call for no rain on weekends.

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    Re: Can Obama make Middle East peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Of course not. Only the Israelis and Palestinians are able to do that. When Clinton was president, Arafat didn't want to make peace. When Bush was president, Hamas and Hezbollah were able to command enough authority to prevent peace. Now that Obama is president, Bibi doesn't want to make peace.
    Full text of Netanyahu's foreign policy speech at Bar Ilan - Haaretz - Israel News

    It's a bit more complicated than that, a peace agreement doesn't come because there is simply no way to satisfy one side while satisfying the other as well, and without the satisfaction of both sides, peace cannot be maintained.

    I myself believe that the Palestinians' conditions for peace are just too many and too insane to establish.
    Instead of simply desiring their own state, they want a right of return for the refugees(And their sons, grandsons, great grandsons) of 1948, that would allow them to settle in Israel after the raise of the Palestinian nation.
    This means that over 4 million Palestinians would receive an Israeli citizenship, the Arabs in Israel would have a 1.5 million more citizens than the Jews, and Israel would cease to exist and become another Muslim nation.
    No sane nation would receive this condition.

    There's also the problem with Jerusalem, as the Palestinians want to make E. Jerusalem as their capital, but that's where the western wall is and that's the capital of Israel, so it's simply bizarre to expect a nation to give away its capital so another nation could make it theirs.

    Peace might come when the conditions would be more sane and both sides' needs could actually be equally satisfied.
    This is certainly not the situation right now.
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    Re: Can Obama make Middle East peace?

    No one can. Those people have been killing each other for thousands of years & are very good at it! (they like it ....like we like baseball)
    I'm not saying we shouldn't TRY....but just don't hold your breath that any U.S. peace initiative, or attempt a "Nation Building" will ever work over there.

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