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    Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    The Associated Press: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    Congress' chief budget officer is contradicting President Barack Obama's oft-stated claim that seniors wouldn't see their Medicare benefits cut under a health care overhaul.

    The head of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, Douglas Elmendorf, told senators Tuesday that seniors in Medicare's managed care plans would see reduced benefits under a bill in the Finance Committee.

    The bill would cut payments to the Medicare Advantage plans by more than $100 billion over 10 years.

    Elmendorf said the changes would reduce the extra benefits that would be made available to beneficiaries.
    Whatever we end up doing with health care, we need to realize that everyone cannot get everything they want.
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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    you can't win squat in american politics without solid senior support

    obamacare is dead

    thanks for the info, it's HUGE

    cbo is the arbiter, elmendorf's the mathematician

    there's never any arguing with them, their word is bottom line

    tuesday, even---baucus, markup, finance cmte, the GATEWAY

    wow

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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The Associated Press: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs



    Whatever we end up doing with health care, we need to realize that everyone cannot get everything they want.
    I don't even think that is the issue; it is the notion that we can all get something for nothing which is what Obama is attempting to argue.

    It is beyond stupid to see any President claim that he can insure an additional 45 million citizens and illegals and save so much through well managed reform efforts that the costs will be offset by savings; in other words, deficit neutral and not requiring vast new taxes to pay for it all.

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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    any body else love it when this kind of thing happens with in a bad administration

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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    Quote Originally Posted by 75Greeno View Post
    any body else love it when this kind of thing happens with in a bad administration
    I would laugh if it were not such a serious effort to destroy, in my opinion, what is a great nation of citizens who pride in their independence.

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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you can't win squat in american politics without solid senior support

    obamacare is dead

    thanks for the info, it's HUGE

    cbo is the arbiter, elmendorf's the mathematician

    there's never any arguing with them, their word is bottom line

    tuesday, even---baucus, markup, finance cmte, the GATEWAY

    wow
    I'm so excited too! The choice between no health insurance or overpriced health insurance prevails!
    and so it goes...

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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    I'm so excited too! The choice between no health insurance or overpriced health insurance prevails!
    Better than the thrid choice: going broke paying for the most massive entitlement program in history.

    If PBO wasn't killing jobs at a record rate, there wouldn't be so many people without insurance. But, everyone working an making money would defeat the Leftist agenda quicker than anything. Can't control the population if they're financially independent from the government.
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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    if obama can really cut a half billion medicare dollars by trimming waste, fraud and abuse, then why does he need a comprehensive reform bill to do so?

    what's he waiting for?

    why not secure the savings now?
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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    This is why the public option must be open to all citizens or we need to enact single payer and just dismantle the private health care insurance industry altogether. If we just open medicare to all, then it offsets the costs of those who are older. Plus, the CBO is wrong in that the stuff being considered for cuts is the fat that needs trimming off of medicare. I thought conservatives would be for getting rid of waste. Oh well. Seems that no matter what this congress does, conservatives will be up in arms about it.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    This is why the public option must be open to all citizens or we need to enact single payer and just dismantle the private health care insurance industry altogether. If we just open medicare to all, then it offsets the costs of those who are older. Plus, the CBO is wrong in that the stuff being considered for cuts is the fat that needs trimming off of medicare. I thought conservatives would be for getting rid of waste. Oh well. Seems that no matter what this congress does, conservatives will be up in arms about it.
    It requires stunning level of willful denial to believe that ANYTHING the Government manages does not lead to waste, OR, that the Government can eliminate waste within Government run programs.

    History is not kind to those who profess such absurdities; particularly the lie being spewed by Obama and his Administration that they are going to find so much waste, the program will almost pay for itself; that is truly laughable.


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