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Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

Harshaw said:
I would think that Germany's delegation walking out would indicate that Germany itself is owning up to it. I think some of this stuff is a bit misplaced.
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That is very true and I know that Germany and virtually all Germans living today have "owned" up to their role as the leader of the HolocaustMiesters.
 
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Scorpion89 said:
Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

Germany's foreign ministry is sending a clear message to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ahead of his Wednesday speech to the United Nations — don't deny the Holocaust.

If the rogue Iranian leaders does in fact make such a statement before the General Assembly, German diplomats will walk out. And Germany wants other European Union countries to follow, the foreign ministry was quoted by Reuters.

Question why and the Hell is the United States of America ewven going to let him into the Country. The Stated Department needs to tell him and Mr.Chavez that they are not welcome in the Uniteds States and if the UN has a problem with that then the UN needs to deal with the fact that both of these idiots need to go. No where is it in the United States Consitution required that we must let any World Leader into the USA. Also before someone point's out it states in the UN Charter great but WE The People of the United States of America never got to vote on said treaty and till that happens the UN can suck a big fat one.
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We allow people into the USA based on their beliefs now? Many American citizens deny the holocaust. And where in the constitution does it say we should deny the world leaders visa to the US? And what the hell does Hugo Chavez have to do with denying the holocaust? Do you even know why you're mad?
 
JakeFromWI said:
We allow people into the USA based on their beliefs now? Many American citizens deny the holocaust. And where in the constitution does it say we should deny the world leaders visa to the US? And what the hell does Hugo Chavez have to do with denying the holocaust? Do you even know why you're mad?
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We disallowed the Hondurans an entry visa, so obviously their's some sorta weird ass criteria that we use to allow people into the United States, now-a-days. Perhaps you could explain that one to us?
 
apdst said:
We disallowed the Hondurans an entry visa, so obviously their's some sorta weird ass criteria that we use to allow people into the United States, now-a-days. Perhaps you could explain that one to us?
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"Honduras’ de facto president said Saturday that the United States has revoked his visas to pressure the Central American country to reinstate ousted leader Manuel Zelaya, exiled in a June 28 coup...."

"Micheletti said the other officials lost only their diplomatic visas, while he also had his tourist visa revoked.

“I’m OK because I expected the decision and I accept it with dignity … and without the least bit of resentment or anger at the United States because it is that country’s right,” he said."


Washington (not the Obama administration directly) revoked the diplomatic visas of a non UN recognized government. There is logic behind that. Disallowing Ahmedenijad from participating in Global Summits in the US (which is on INTERNATIONAL soil) as a recognized government of the UN is however not logical.
 
F107HyperSabr said:
That is very true and I know that Germany and virtually all Germans living today have "owned" up to their role as the leader of the HolocaustMiesters.
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The younger generation has not; as a matter of course, they are slipping back into denial and many are now claiming that the Dresden bombings by the allies where in and of themselves an atrocity.

While visiting family in Germany my German uncle (not by blood however) made this specious claim to me while we debated Bush's policies; my response was this: "I guess nations should think twice before starting world wars that result in the deaths of millions then."

He then proceeded to tell me that he hoped the war in Iraq would last long enough for both of my sons to fight and die in it (in front of my oldest nonetheless). Needless to say we do not talk anymore. I have no time for "Nazi" like assholes like my uncle who are now wallowing in their own denial.

You don't have to believe me, just do a google search. It is out there.

The WWII Dresden Holocaust - 'A Single Column Of Flame'

ZGram - 11/19/2002 - "German tabloid Das Bild: 'Churchill a war criminal'"

U.S. British Massacre at Dresden

War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity
 
JakeFromWI said:
Story Here

"Honduras’ de facto president said Saturday that the United States has revoked his visas to pressure the Central American country to reinstate ousted leader Manuel Zelaya, exiled in a June 28 coup...."

"Micheletti said the other officials lost only their diplomatic visas, while he also had his tourist visa revoked.

“I’m OK because I expected the decision and I accept it with dignity … and without the least bit of resentment or anger at the United States because it is that country’s right,” he said."


Washington (not the Obama administration directly) revoked the diplomatic visas of a non UN recognized government. There is logic behind that. Disallowing Ahmedenijad from participating in Global Summits in the US (which is on INTERNATIONAL soil) as a recognized government of the UN is however not logical.
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Just goes to show how idiotic the UN and our government really are.
 
Listening to Muammar Qaddafi talk made me despise Obama's policies even more. These are the people that we're trying to appease? Leader's like this spin up rhetoric to rile up the masses who feel "disenfranchised" by the "evil capitalist empire". I have to wonder to myself, does Obama listen to these statements about how terrible we are and think to himself "yeah.. he's kinda got a point".

He must.

All Obama is doing is trading one set of allies for temporary friendships of convenience.

I feel like we have a leader of some other country speaking for us every time Obama opens his mouth.
 
JakeFromWI said:
We allow people into the USA based on their beliefs now? Many American citizens deny the holocaust. And where in the constitution does it say we should deny the world leaders visa to the US? And what the hell does Hugo Chavez have to do with denying the holocaust? Do you even know why you're mad?
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Hmm I guess you don't know much about the US Constitution then I suggest you go and read it and thne come back and ask me the question.

As for Chavez, if you don't know why he shouldn't be allowed in the United States then you must have been living under a rock or in the jungle for the past 10 Years.
 
talloulou said:
He needs to be mocked, shunned, embarrassed, and shamed so his people are completely 100% aware that they have a joke of a man representing them on the worldwide stage. There should be no video where it appears we are respecting him, even briefly. None.
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His people already know that. They tried very hard to vote him out this year. I have some question as to why the UN is allowing him to represent Iran in the first place given the non-democratic election that just occurred in Iran, and Ahmadinajed's role in depriving his people of their rights to vote.

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The UN reps who are opposed to this tyrant's abuse of his own people should wear GREEN and convene outside.
 
According to Fox, US delegation walked out on nutter's speech tonight. They should've dropped their pants and mooned the mofo.
 
I think it's awful sad when our president wants to make friends with a clown that claims that the Israelis assissinated JFK.

Obviously, our new administration has zero clue about diplomacy.

I guess that's what happens when you elect a president who is ashamed of his country.
 
Scorpion89 said:
Hmm I guess you don't know much about the US Constitution then I suggest you go and read it and thne come back and ask me the question.

As for Chavez, if you don't know why he shouldn't be allowed in the United States then you must have been living under a rock or in the jungle for the past 10 Years.
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Is it because he gives underprivileged Americans on the East Coast free energy in the winter - Or because he helped turn Central and South America away from US hegemony?
 
apdst said:
I think it's awful sad when our president wants to make friends with a clown that claims that the Israelis assissinated JFK.

Obviously, our new administration has zero clue about diplomacy.

I guess that's what happens when you elect a president who is ashamed of his country.
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Diplomacy is turning the cheek right? It worked sooooo well during the Bush administration. As a matter of fact, it worked great with North Korea too. Now they have nuclear weapons! Good thing we gave them the silent treatment.
 
JakeFromWI said:
Diplomacy is turning the cheek right? It worked sooooo well during the Bush administration. As a matter of fact, it worked great with North Korea too. Now they have nuclear weapons! Good thing we gave them the silent treatment.
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Hmm so you do understand that North Korea has had Nuke Weapons well before Mr. W Bush came into office you might ant to go abck to hmm let see Mr. Clinton first year in Office.
 
talloulou said:
According to Fox, US delegation walked out on nutter's speech tonight. They should've dropped their pants and mooned the mofo.
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Well Hillary was part of that delegation and did you really want Hillary to put her best face forward ?
 
Yes, by all means, we should negotiate with the man who murdered his people in the streets to seal his undemocratic election.

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apdst said:
I think it's awful sad when our president wants to make friends with a clown that claims that the Israelis assissinated JFK.

Obviously, our new administration has zero clue about diplomacy.

I guess that's what happens when you elect a president who is ashamed of his country.
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First when did the 'new administration ' say that they wanted to be " friends with a clown that claims that the Israelis assissinated JFK" ? The rest of the aware and awake world must have missed that.

When did an president of the US ever say that he was "ashamed of his country." ? You per chance have a clip or a quote ?
 
Scorpion89 said:
Hmm so you do understand that North Korea has had Nuke Weapons well before Mr. W Bush came into office you might ant to go abck to hmm let see Mr. Clinton first year in Office.
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Thier first nuclear test was in 2006. After they were deemed "axis of evil" and 6 years after no talks with them began.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North_Korean_nuclear_test"]Learn Something Here[/ame]
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Yes, by all means, we should negotiate with the man who murdered his people in the streets to seal his undemocratic election.

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Who and when did any American administartion say that "we should negotiate with the man who murdered his people in the streets to seal his undemocratic election." ? Just did not happen !!!
 
JakeFromWI said:
Diplomacy is turning the cheek right?
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Um, no, diplomacy is all about give and take.

As a matter of fact, it worked great with North Korea too. Now they have nuclear weapons! Good thing we gave them the silent treatment.
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Were you asleep for the past 8 years?
 
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apdst said:
Um, no, diplomacy is all about give and take.



Were you asleep for the past 8 years?
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Article Here

"Adopting a harder line toward North Korea than that of his predecessor, President George W. Bush said March 7, 2001 that his administration would not immediately resume missile negotiations with Pyongyang left unfinished by the Clinton administration. The announcement differed from previous statements by Secretary of State Colin Powell, who had indicated that the administration planned to pursue what appears to have been a nearly complete deal by the Clinton administration to end North Korea's missile development and exports."

Or read about his failure to do anything "diplomatic" with NK from your favorite source... Bush's North Korea Surrender Will Have Lasting Consequences
 
JakeFromWI said:
Article Here

"Adopting a harder line toward North Korea than that of his predecessor, President George W. Bush said March 7, 2001 that his administration would not immediately resume missile negotiations with Pyongyang left unfinished by the Clinton administration. The announcement differed from previous statements by Secretary of State Colin Powell, who had indicated that the administration planned to pursue what appears to have been a nearly complete deal by the Clinton administration to end North Korea's missile development and exports."

Or read about his failure to do anything "diplomatic" with NK from your favorite source... Bush's North Korea Surrender Will Have Lasting Consequences
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So, the answer to my question would be a resounding, "yes".


President George W. Bush claimed "measurable results" from six-nation talks to persuade North Korea to dismantle its nuclear-weapons operations but said Friday more needed to be done to reach the goal of a nuclear-free Korean peninsula. He praised Japan's role in the process and said the United States was sensitive to the importance Tokyo places on a resolution of the issue of kidnapped Japanese in North Korea.

Bush cites progress in nuclear talks with North Korea, praises Japan's role - AP Worldstream | Encyclopedia.com
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BTW, I'm floored that you used John Bolton as a source...:rofl
 
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JakeFromWI said:
I love your source..... "GW says GW did a good job"
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You said that Bush gave NK the, "silent treatmen", as in, "he never said a word to them". You're wrong, there were 6 countries in involved in diplomatic negotiations with NK over their nuke program. Crawfish much?
 
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