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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    A no means a no, regardless of what side you are on.
    Great.
    Another No will hopefully be coming up in a few weeks time and we'll see how EU reacts.


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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's awful funny...seems to me that the Ukraine had a serious election dispute during the Bush administration.
    Yea classy, bring up the old iron curtain countries in one of their first free elections ever vs a country who has had free elections for 250 years... yup totally comparable.. But why keep this going since it is so way off topic.....
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Which is exactly my point. Ahmadinejad probably understands if he avoids the denial crapola today he will have video to air at home. Video of him speaking before a respectful audience a day after he spewed a bunch of nonsense. He doesn't deserve that video.
    Aw, heck, if every delegate walked out at the beginning of his speech (or didn't bother to show up), leaving the madman speaking to an empty chamber, he'd just use the videos of him speaking to the empty chamber to show the Iranian people how "disrespectful" the US was. After all, it happened here, so it's our fault, right?

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know if we should really add to the resentment though. Picking a fight now may not be good. I think overall Iran has the best chance of adopting a western style democratic Republic. The people there are open to it, the problem is their theocracy is against it. I'm not sure if picking a fight will help in that regard, however. We all know the guy is a loon. Let him talk, note that he's a loon, and get on with the day I say.
    Add to the resentment? Pick a fight? Seriously? I personally am uncomfortable with world leaders sitting silent, holding their collective tongues, while some raving lunatic makes appalling statements about Jews. I don't really consider it a "no biggie" we should just overlook.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Which is exactly my point. Ahmadinejad probably understands if he avoids the denial crapola today he will have video to air at home. Video of him speaking before a respectful audience a day after he spewed a bunch of nonsense. He doesn't deserve that video.
    The video that will be aired at home will be the video after all of the dissenters have left the room, while the remainder are applauding. I'm not saying that the Iranian people are not smart, but modern media is expert at twisting the facts.

    I agree with Ikari in that Iran is still a viable ally once its current leadership passes through, which it inevitably will. The revolts and slaughters following the elections are proof of that. Their leader is running his mouth and shaming his own people. They won't stand for it forever. The next elections there should be interesting.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Add to the resentment? Pick a fight? Seriously? I personally am uncomfortable with world leaders sitting silent, holding their collective tongues, while some raving lunatic makes appalling statements about Jews. I don't really consider it a "no biggie" we should just overlook.
    I'm not saying that it's "no biggie" but rather there isn't anything we can rightfully do to stop him. People do dumb things all the time, look at Pete's comments in this thread alone. I think you can end up doing more harm than good by a huge walkout and that because of that we should think through our actions and consequences to make sure we're not jumping into the fire sort of speak.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The next elections there should be interesting.
    Why interesting?
    A President can only serve two terms in Iran. No more Ahmadinejad after this term


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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Add to the resentment? Pick a fight? Seriously? I personally am uncomfortable with world leaders sitting silent, holding their collective tongues, while some raving lunatic makes appalling statements about Jews. I don't really consider it a "no biggie" we should just overlook.
    I guess what it boils down to for me is that when people walk out, they are giving him exactly what he wants. The kind of crap he goes on about is just par for the course in his daily political life. It's not going to stop. Are we going to flee the room every time he opens his mouth?

    It's different if it's you or I, but our diplomatic representatives running out of the room looks bad to me. It makes it appear like they have no grit to withstand stupidity. I understand Germany's sensitivity, but even it has taken things too far. You can't even say the word "nazi" there in a school unless you are prepared to justify your usage.

    Like Ikari said... there is plenty of documentation. People from the holocaust are still living and giving their testimony. What this guy has to say shouldn't bother us so much. We're too damned PC and reactionary... now even to the point of our very diplomats boycotting speeches. It's just bizarre.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Why interesting?
    A President can only serve two terms in Iran. No more Ahmadinejad after this term
    I know, which is why it will be interesting. I am curious to see if he will try to get the law abolished, Chavez style, before then... or if his doppelganger will be put forward.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

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