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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I disagree because it allows him to play the game. He was spewing all manner of holocaust denying b.s. just yesterday. So what if today he stands up and doesn't repeat that nonsense but instead goes on about other stuff and has an audience sitting there giving him credibility and the appearance that he is a respected leader worth listening too? He is not respectable, he deserves no audience. They shouldn't pander to him by even bothering to give him an ear at all.
    To some extent, I agree with you. However, I'm assuming that his speech is not the only item on the agenda. I'd think that delegates would want to be present for the rest of the session. I think they could attend, and then walk out the minute the madman starts his tirade, I mean, speech, and return when that's over.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    He needs to be mocked, shunned, embarrassed, and shamed so his people are completely 100% aware that they have a joke of a man representing them on the worldwide stage. There should be no video where it appears we are respecting him, even briefly. None.
    Iran's state media is controlled. They will never see the walkout unless they can access Youtube or some other independent source. I think youtube may be blocked there, actually, along with Facebook.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Oh yeah.
    EU really is just brilliant.

    I mean the citizens reject the constitution and the bureaucrats shove it through under a different name so sure that us stupid common folk have no "real" understanding of it and how we must be wrong in rejecting it
    Was talking more about all elections in Europe.. not only the EU ones And it was not I who brought up the EU aspect. And remember where I am from Laila.. we wrote the freaking book on rejecting the EU and it aint something I am proud off. A no means a no, regardless of what side you are on. But again, we know how to count votes over here.. even in close elections...
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    He needs to be mocked, shunned, embarrassed, and shamed so his people are completely 100% aware that they have a joke of a man representing them on the worldwide stage. There should be no video where it appears we are respecting him, even briefly. None.
    After seeing his gracious [sarcasm alert] reaction to the protests after the last Iranian election, I doubt that the Iranian press is free enough to let the people know that their dear [more sarcasm alert] leader has been mocked etc.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    But back to topic.

    Kudos to Germany if they do it.

    Then again, more of such political action should happen and not only against Iran.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Iran's state media is controlled. They will never see the walkout unless they can access Youtube or some other independent source. I think youtube may be blocked there, actually, along with Facebook.
    Which is exactly my point. Ahmadinejad probably understands if he avoids the denial crapola today he will have video to air at home. Video of him speaking before a respectful audience a day after he spewed a bunch of nonsense. He doesn't deserve that video.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Was talking more about all elections in Europe.. not only the EU ones And it was not I who brought up the EU aspect. And remember where I am from Laila.. we wrote the freaking book on rejecting the EU and it aint something I am proud off. A no means a no, regardless of what side you are on. But again, we know how to count votes over here.. even in close elections...
    Can you just make an anti-American thread and quit derailing this one? It's obvious your bias, we get it. Now just shove a sock in that pie hole of yours and get over it.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Was talking more about all elections in Europe.. not only the EU ones And it was not I who brought up the EU aspect. And remember where I am from Laila.. we wrote the freaking book on rejecting the EU and it aint something I am proud off. A no means a no, regardless of what side you are on. But again, we know how to count votes over here.. even in close elections...
    Because democracy is all about counting votes.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Which is exactly my point. Ahmadinejad probably understands if he avoids the denial crapola today he will have video to air at home. Video of him speaking before a respectful audience a day after he spewed a bunch of nonsense. He doesn't deserve that video.
    I don't know if we should really add to the resentment though. Picking a fight now may not be good. I think overall Iran has the best chance of adopting a western style democratic Republic. The people there are open to it, the problem is their theocracy is against it. I'm not sure if picking a fight will help in that regard, however. We all know the guy is a loon. Let him talk, note that he's a loon, and get on with the day I say.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Was talking more about all elections in Europe.. not only the EU ones And it was not I who brought up the EU aspect. And remember where I am from Laila.. we wrote the freaking book on rejecting the EU and it aint something I am proud off. A no means a no, regardless of what side you are on. But again, we know how to count votes over here.. even in close elections...
    That's awful funny...seems to me that the Ukraine had a serious election dispute during the Bush administration.

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