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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by 75Greeno View Post
    this is kind of strange but it is good that germany is holding up to what they did and not dening that it happend
    I don't see why Germany should still be held accountable and get the blame for the Holocaust.
    Even if Germany did not walk out, it shouldn't make a difference imo

    I do not see the point of walking out, it gives the man more headlines and attention than he deserves


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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Actually, I think that showing up for the speech, and then walking out in the middle of it, would send a stronger message than just not showing up.
    I disagree because it allows him to play the game. He was spewing all manner of holocaust denying b.s. just yesterday. So what if today he stands up and doesn't repeat that nonsense but instead goes on about other stuff and has an audience sitting there giving him credibility and the appearance that he is a respected leader worth listening too? He is not respectable, he deserves no audience. They shouldn't pander to him by even bothering to give him an ear at all.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't see why Germany should still be held accountable and get the blame for the Holocaust.
    Even if Germany did not walk out, it shouldn't make a difference imo

    I do not see the point of walking out, it gives the man more headlines and attention than he deserves
    it is good that they are still taking resposiblity for it and if they didnt the world would think that they still would do it why do you think the US puts down the salvery and still takes responsibility or even puting the native americans on reservations

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    US elections have been transmitted to other countries in a very short time period. Most countries transmitted it on national channels during the night during the late 1980s and 1990s, but in the late 1990s satellite TV news channels started to pop up and the 1996 and 2000 election were the first two fully globally watched elections and what a whopper people got to watch in 2000.. week after week after week..

    Hence the perception many people had that the US had a near perfect democracy and election system was shattered because of what they saw on TV. Dont blame me for what they saw, it is your election system and elections, and yes facts are facts on what happened in 2000. We all saw and heard it.
    My perception that Europe was perfect was shattered when I saw on TV that the EU couldn't agree on a constitution for several years. Guess they lost their moral compass!

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Um, anyway...

    I think walking out would be a mistake. Ahmadinejad is just doing it to be inflammatory, I don't think he genuinely even believes his own words. Most of his political career has been spent firing pot shots at Western nations in order to garner support from the radical right in Iran. Being a holocaust denier just fits with his usual repertoire.

    If Germany walks out, or if the U.S. were to censor him, it would show that his childish tactics are so effective that diplomats will avoid a UN conference. The proper thing would be to bear it and grin, and then proceed as normal.

    After all, you don't leave the bus when a ranting, mentally disturbed person enters it, do you? No. You let them have their piece, as uncomfortable as it makes you, then you go on about your life.
    I think it would say a lot more if they stayed in the room but stood up and turned their backs on him.

    As to Petey's moronic ranting...I trust he'll forgive me for not really caring what a European has to say about anyone's moral compass.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Mind your own god damned business. If you're gonna bitch and look down on us because we had a close election, then your opinion ain't worth squat and I don't care what it is. "Oh no, the United States is supposed to be perfect and all their elections should be like 100% popular vote for one guy and not the other. Oh how our world view is shattered because the US had a close election! Oh how my ideals were realistic to start with!" Pathetic. This is nothing more than dumb America bashing and trying to blame all the woes on Bush. Y'all ain't much better, you should look after your own business before thumbing your nose at the US. A close election...losing moral compass. HA. Stupid hyperpartisanship and nothing more. Your opinion is worthless, mind your own Ps and Qs.
    Gezz, talk about being over sensitive and twisting what I not only said but meant.. forget it not worth the aggravation.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Gezz, talk about being over sensitive and twisting what I not only said but meant.. forget it not worth the aggravation.
    No, you just caught me on a day when I have an extremely low tolerance for stupid.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    My perception that Europe was perfect was shattered when I saw on TV that the EU couldn't agree on a constitution for several years. Guess they lost their moral compass!
    We never had one.. so how could we lose it? And at least we can count our votes....
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think it would say a lot more if they stayed in the room but stood up and turned their backs on him.

    As to Petey's moronic ranting...I trust he'll forgive me for not really caring what a European has to say about anyone's moral compass.
    Turning their backs on him would be awesome. But it should be done from the beginning; the start. He already blabbered a bunch of nonsense yesterday in sheer anticipation of gaining an audience today. If he were a smart man he'd stay away from the denials today so nobody had anything in his speech to react rudely too. If he were to actually carry that off it makes him look legit and respectable. He blew that yesterday! He deserves no second chance. They should turn their backs as soon as he says, "Greetings..."

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by 75Greeno View Post
    it is good that they are still taking resposiblity for it and if they didnt the world would think that they still would do it why do you think the US puts down the salvery and still takes responsibility or even puting the native americans on reservations
    'Taking responsibility'?
    Those responsible are dead. The generation who lived through the Holocaust and world wars are slowly dying.

    The world would not think they would 'do it'
    I personally think when the last holocaust survivor dies. Germany should draw a line under it and move on. I do not understand this 'guilt' Germany has.


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