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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It was not the first time. Open a damned history book, the Congress elected the president a couple of times, and the whole Gore thing and the court was a bitch, but guess why we had the court system in place? Jesus. If one controversial election is what it takes to lose our "moral compass" than the damned thing wasn't worth having in the first place.
    I dont care if it was not the first time lol... People were not use to hearing of "troubled" elections in the US for peak sake, that is the whole point!

    US elections have been transmitted to other countries in a very short time period. Most countries transmitted it on national channels during the night during the late 1980s and 1990s, but in the late 1990s satellite TV news channels started to pop up and the 1996 and 2000 election were the first two fully globally watched elections and what a whopper people got to watch in 2000.. week after week after week..

    Hence the perception many people had that the US had a near perfect democracy and election system was shattered because of what they saw on TV. Dont blame me for what they saw, it is your election system and elections, and yes facts are facts on what happened in 2000. We all saw and heard it.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I dont care if it was not the first time lol... People were not use to hearing of "troubled" elections in the US for peak sake, that is the whole point!

    US elections have been transmitted to other countries in a very short time period. Most countries transmitted it on national channels during the night during the late 1980s and 1990s, but in the late 1990s satellite TV news channels started to pop up and the 1996 and 2000 election were the first two fully globally watched elections and what a whopper people got to watch in 2000.. week after week after week..

    Hence the perception many people had that the US had a near perfect democracy and election system was shattered because of what they saw on TV. Dont blame me for what they saw, it is your election system and elections, and yes facts are facts on what happened in 2000. We all saw and heard it.
    And? What was wrong with it? What should have been done?
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I dont care if it was not the first time lol... People were not use to hearing of "troubled" elections in the US for peak sake, that is the whole point!

    US elections have been transmitted to other countries in a very short time period. Most countries transmitted it on national channels during the night during the late 1980s and 1990s, but in the late 1990s satellite TV news channels started to pop up and the 1996 and 2000 election were the first two fully globally watched elections and what a whopper people got to watch in 2000.. week after week after week..

    Hence the perception many people had that the US had a near perfect democracy and election system was shattered because of what they saw on TV. Dont blame me for what they saw, it is your election system and elections, and yes facts are facts on what happened in 2000. We all saw and heard it.
    Mind your own god damned business. If you're gonna bitch and look down on us because we had a close election, then your opinion ain't worth squat and I don't care what it is. "Oh no, the United States is supposed to be perfect and all their elections should be like 100% popular vote for one guy and not the other. Oh how our world view is shattered because the US had a close election! Oh how my ideals were realistic to start with!" Pathetic. This is nothing more than dumb America bashing and trying to blame all the woes on Bush. Y'all ain't much better, you should look after your own business before thumbing your nose at the US. A close election...losing moral compass. HA. Stupid hyperpartisanship and nothing more. Your opinion is worthless, mind your own Ps and Qs.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL it is not a fact that the 2000 election has "issues" in it?

    Like it or not, I grew up along with many Europeans, being taught that the US was the beacon of democracy, liberty and freedom, and yet here we had an election that was ... lets just say controversial at best. So yes that illusion we grew up on was shattered in 2000.. like it or not. And that did damage the illusion of any "moral compass" by the US on things like democracy and elections.
    Well let me blow up your bubble and inform you that an election becoming controversial and then being solved is certainly not a basis for the claim for a lack of Democracy.

    The US hasn't lost one bit of its morality, and it certainly still is the beacon of freedom in this world.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Ahmadinejad does not deserve an audience. He has lost his right to be taken seriously. Not only would I applaud them walking out on his speech but I'd respect folks just not showing up to hear him in the first place. He's a joke of a leader with zero credibility. Why even bother feigning interest in what he has to say at all? Why even attempt to put on a show of legitimacy for appearances sake? Why does it even matter if he says it today, when he has said it pointedly and clearly yesterday and obviously gets off on the emotional anger it creates? Walking out on him would be cool. Not showing up or sticking around to even hear him utter one word would be even better.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Apparently Canada is going to boycott his speech regardless of what he aims to say. Kudos to them. That's how it should be.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    this is kind of strange but it is good that germany is holding up to what they did and not dening that it happend

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Ahmadinejad does not deserve an audience. He has lost his right to be taken seriously. Not only would I applaud them walking out on his speech but I'd respect folks just not showing up to hear him in the first place. He's a joke of a leader with zero credibility. Why even bother feigning interest in what he has to say at all? Why even attempt to put on a show of legitimacy for appearances sake? Why does it even matter if he says it today, when he has said it pointedly and clearly yesterday and obviously gets off on the emotional anger it creates? Walking out on him would be cool. Not showing up or sticking around to even hear him utter one word would be even better.
    Actually, I think that showing up for the speech, and then walking out in the middle of it, would send a stronger message than just not showing up.

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Actually, I think that showing up for the speech, and then walking out in the middle of it, would send a stronger message than just not showing up.
    ya thats true but the same message would come acrross but without as many harsh reactions if they just didnt show up

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Apparently Canada is going to boycott his speech regardless of what he aims to say. Kudos to them. That's how it should be.
    They should attend and then walk out.
    This causes much more drama and fun.
    We all remember the last time that Ahmedinejad gave a speech at the UN:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-lZqEMHMlk&feature=related"]YouTube - diplomats walk out on a racist speech by Iran's president - 4/20/2009[/ame]
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