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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We musta lost it on one of those many occassions we saved the world from destruction by some European or Asian asshole.
    naw you lost it when you elected Bush. But you are working to get the respect back.. no easy after pissing on the rest of the world for a decade.

    and when will the right wingers stop using the "guilt" card in their attacks.. you no better than Ahmadinejad for god sake.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    naw you lost it when you elected Bush. But you are working to get the respect back.. no easy after pissing on the rest of the world for a decade.

    and when will the right wingers stop using the "guilt" card in their attacks.. you no better than Ahmadinejad for god sake.
    Really? I think these are rather stupid comments. It's nothing more than partisan crap. Bush did not lose us a "moral compass", government is not a moral being. Obama isn't much different than Bush. Trying to say he is and that we're "working to get the respect back" because of it is dumb crap espoused by partisan hacks who only make their decisions based on the R or D.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You lost that long ago.
    Does any Government have a moral compass?


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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    naw you lost it when you elected Bush. But you are working to get the respect back.. no easy after pissing on the rest of the world for a decade.

    and when will the right wingers stop using the "guilt" card in their attacks.. you no better than Ahmadinejad for god sake.
    Are you just trying to pick up Maximus Zeebra's slack?
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    naw you lost it when you elected Bush.
    And you just lost your credibility Pete.
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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    naw you lost it when you elected Bush. But you are working to get the respect back.. no easy after pissing on the rest of the world for a decade.

    and when will the right wingers stop using the "guilt" card in their attacks.. you no better than Ahmadinejad for god sake.
    Bush was a mistake and a idiot unable to string a coherent sentence together and was pretty much a embarassment all round. No complaints on that one.

    But Obama seems more like Bush everyday .... he promised to withdraw from Iraq, Guantanmo Bay, Torture.
    He is just a more intelligent and literate version of Bush.


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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Bush was a mistake and a idiot unable to string a coherent sentence together and was pretty much a embarassment all round. No complaints on that one.

    But Obama seems more like Bush everyday .... he promised to withdraw from Iraq, Guantanmo Bay, Torture.
    He is just a more intelligent and literate version of Bush.
    Our last three presidents have sucked and have been pretty similar to each other.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Our last three presidents have sucked and have been pretty similar to each other.
    Really?
    Clinton doesn't seem that bad.


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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Really?
    Clinton doesn't seem that bad.
    Clinton was terrible. I remember back in the day thinking he was the worst president ever...then Bush came along. Peas in a pod, they both liked bombing the crap out of places. Much of the oligopoly we suffer under now was started with Clinton, he wasn't a good president. Much of what eventually blew up our economy was started in Clinton's administration and exacerbated by Bush.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Germany Will Walk Out of U.N. if Ahmadinejad Denies Holocaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Really? I think these are rather stupid comments. It's nothing more than partisan crap. Bush did not lose us a "moral compass", government is not a moral being. Obama isn't much different than Bush. Trying to say he is and that we're "working to get the respect back" because of it is dumb crap espoused by partisan hacks who only make their decisions based on the R or D.
    Has nothing to do with partisan crap.. but facts.

    First off Bush was elected in highly controversial circumstances broadcast all around the world. YES the world was amazed that in the US, elections could go that wrong and have to be settled in a court of law.. That happens in the 3rd world, not in what many up to that point saw as the beacon of democracy, liberty and freedom. How could the US from that day on, go around preaching democracy and freedom, when they could not even figure out how to count their own freaking votes in an election.

    Secondly Iraq. Need I say more?

    Thirdly Gitmo and Abu Graib.. Need I say more?

    While no country has a "moral compass" really, the US always had an aura of being what everything is good about democracy and liberty in the free world, but that was shattered during the Bush administration. Obama is trying to rebuild that aura but he has one hell of a steep hill to climb and I am not even certain that he is doing it in the right way yet. Time will tell.
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