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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Silly me, thinking you to be a PARTISIAN.

    from post # 55. This interchange between two Democrats was priceless.

    From post#60. The good news about this thread topic is that many are not falling for the BS this adminstration is spewing.

    From post #64. The notion that my comments above are about nothing is merely another of your Liberal "because I say its so.
    Once again, what remarks of mine in this debate are “partisan?” Post #55 was merely describing the participants actually having the interview; I guess in “Doncland” being partisan is merely referring to actual Democrats as being, well Democrats. Give me a great big DUH here.

    What part of #60 suggests anything partisan; it is merely a fact that this Administration is spewing a pile of BS which has been disputed by his own party members and the CBO; I guess in “Doncland”, claiming an Administration is spewing obvious BS is now “partisan” even though Democrats are doing the same thing. Give me a great big DUH here.

    What part of post #64 is partisan? Are you now claiming that you are not a Liberal now? I guess in “Doncland” referring to someone who lists their party affiliation as Liberal is now being “partisan.” Give me a great big DUH.

    You’re just full of great big DUHs aren’t you Donc?

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Only in TD land is “healthcare reform” considered an agenda,
    Only in “Doncland” is an agenda to implement single payer healthcare NOT an agenda.

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    consider these facts TD.

    Fact=National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP).

    Fact=The average increase in national health expenditures is expected to be 6.2 percent per year, while the GDP is expected to increase only 4.1 percent per year.

    Fact= The average employer-sponsored premium for a family of four costs close to $13,000 a year.

    Fact=The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that job-based health insurance could increase 100 percent over the next decade.

    Fact
    =Families USA’s mission is to achieve high-quality, affordable health coverage for everyone in the U.S.

    After all of these facts TD are you saying that healthcare doesn’t need reforming?BY the way there is someone else that thinks healthcare needs reforming.
    Your typical emotional hysterics and suspect data aside, where in any debate have I suggested that our healthcare system doesn’t need reform? Oh that’s right, this is just another lie coming from you in your desperate efforts to argue that the ONLY solution is a Government one based on your historical ignorance and selective use of facts.

    The only thing more laughable here than your obvious attempts to distort and lie about others positions is your farcical belief that only Government can reform healthcare and Government will do it at a lower cost and manage it effectively; contrary to EVERY Government program ever implemented and the FACT that they cannot even manage their own budget and have run the deficit up to $1.6 trillion of which this program will add another $2 trillion.

    It begs the question; you have to be kidding me right? What level of willful denial and hyper partisan demagoguery does one have to engage in to believe such obvious nonsense?


    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Who knows you might have even voted for this one.

    California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, said in a health care speech earlier this month: "We've got to stop that hidden tax. Everyone must be insured."
    I am always amused when Democrats trot out moderate Republicans that agree with them as somehow a substantive argument to support their preposterous positions, their lies and their distortions.


    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Intellectually incapable of comprehension…. you must be looking in mirror . I think that’s your bag, after all you seem to confuse illegals with indigents.
    Another lie postulated by someone who mistakes hyper partisan emotional hyperbole for substance.

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    So…it doesn’t alter the fact that 37% of insurance payments go for indigent care. Do you have anything to refute that,or are you just intent on smearing the messenger?

    Yada,yada,yada .Is that all you have, smear the messenger. How about proving him wrong instead of this BS your throwing out?
    Once more, you whine about the fact that your data cannot be supported by any credible sources; how does one prove FALSE data wrong?

    You display a stunning disregard for honesty, facts and having a civil debate due to your rabid hyper partisan views. I won’t engage your disingenuous attempts any longer; you get the last word. It is patently obvious you have no clue what you are ranting about and your obvious attempts to act childish don’t make your arguments any more credible.

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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Once again, what remarks of mine in this debate are “partisan?” Post #55 was merely describing the participants actually having the interview; I guess in “Doncland” being partisan is merely referring to actual Democrats as being, well Democrats. Give me a great big DUH here.

    What part of #60 suggests anything partisan; it is merely a fact that this Administration is spewing a pile of BS which has been disputed by his own party members and the CBO; I guess in “Doncland”, claiming an Administration is spewing obvious BS is now “partisan” even though Democrats are doing the same thing. Give me a great big DUH here.

    What part of post #64 is partisan? Are you now claiming that you are not a Liberal now? I guess in “Doncland” referring to someone who lists their party affiliation as Liberal is now being “partisan.” Give me a great big DUH.

    You’re just full of great big DUHs aren’t you Donc?



    Only in “Doncland” is an agenda to implement single payer healthcare NOT an agenda.



    Your typical emotional hysterics and suspect data aside, where in any debate have I suggested that our healthcare system doesn’t need reform? Oh that’s right, this is just another lie coming from you in your desperate efforts to argue that the ONLY solution is a Government one based on your historical ignorance and selective use of facts.

    The only thing more laughable here than your obvious attempts to distort and lie about others positions is your farcical belief that only Government can reform healthcare and Government will do it at a lower cost and manage it effectively; contrary to EVERY Government program ever implemented and the FACT that they cannot even manage their own budget and have run the deficit up to $1.6 trillion of which this program will add another $2 trillion.

    It begs the question; you have to be kidding me right? What level of willful denial and hyper partisan demagoguery does one have to engage in to believe such obvious nonsense?




    I am always amused when Democrats trot out moderate Republicans that agree with them as somehow a substantive argument to support their preposterous positions, their lies and their distortions.




    Another lie postulated by someone who mistakes hyper partisan emotional hyperbole for substance.



    Once more, you whine about the fact that your data cannot be supported by any credible sources; how does one prove FALSE data wrong?

    You display a stunning disregard for honesty, facts and having a civil debate due to your rabid hyper partisan views. I won’t engage your disingenuous attempts any longer; you get the last word. It is patently obvious you have no clue what you are ranting about and your obvious attempts to act childish don’t make your arguments any more credible.
    I guess this question was what did it eh TD? (. How about proving him wrong instead of this BS your throwing out?)
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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Ninety percent of Obama's voters couldn't name a single policy he stood for. They voted for him because (a) he's a minority, and (b) he's prettier than the other guy.

    More than any election to date, this was an American Idol contest.
    Please offer some substantiation for this, or this yet another one of your hyperpartisan premises that has no basis in reality?
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Please offer some substantiation for this, or this yet another one of your hyperpartisan premises that has no basis in reality?
    Ask and you shall recieve:

    97.1% High School Graduate or higher, 55% College Graduates

    Results to 12 simple Multiple Choice Questions

    57.4% could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing)

    81.8% could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)

    82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)

    88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)

    56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing
    Profoundly Uninformed Voters: How Obama Got Elected | Red County

    This is the Zogby poll the above is taken from:

    http://www.zogby.com/news/wf-dfs.pdf

    This straight from the uninformed horses mouthes:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8"]YouTube - How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters[/ame]

    Does that work for you?

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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by cmckinney View Post
    Quit making up definitions! Just because taxes will be forced to go up doesn't mean that it is a tax increase! You and your little dictionary can go to hell!
    Just because taxes will be forced to go up doesn't mean that it is a tax increase, huh? Pretty sure that if taxes are forced up it's a tax increase.
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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostyRoskies View Post
    Just because taxes will be forced to go up doesn't mean that it is a tax increase, huh? Pretty sure that if taxes are forced up it's a tax increase.
    He forgot to include [/sarcasm] at the end of the post.

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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Ask and you shall recieve:



    Profoundly Uninformed Voters: How Obama Got Elected | Red County

    This is the Zogby poll the above is taken from:

    http://www.zogby.com/news/wf-dfs.pdf

    This straight from the uninformed horses mouthes:

    YouTube - How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters

    Does that work for you?
    i believe that poll is fake.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i believe that poll is fake.
    If you had looked at the Zogby results link, at the bottom you would find this:

    For methodology, contact: Fritz Wenzel, 315-624-0200 ext. 229 or 419-205-0287 or fritz@zogby.com.

    Call him or write him and tell him you think the poll was a fake.

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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Zogby International has been tracking public opinion since 1984 in North America, Latin America, the Middle East, Asia, and Europe...
    Zogby International

    Do you really think an International polling organization would post fake poll results.... on their own web site?

    John Zogby on this poll:

    "We stand by the results our survey work on behalf of John Ziegler, as we stand by all of our work. We reject the notion that this was a push poll because it very simply wasn't. It was a legitimate effort to test the knowledge of voters who cast ballots for Barack Obama in the Nov. 4 election. Push polls are a malicious effort to sway public opinion one way or the other, while message and knowledge testing is quite another effort of public opinion research that is legitimate inquiry and has value in the public square. In this case, the respondents were given a full range of responses and were not pressured or influenced to respond in one way or another. This poll was not designed to hurt anyone, which is obvious as it was conducted after the election. The client is free to draw his own conclusions about the research, as are bloggers and other members of society. But Zogby International is a neutral party in this matter. We were hired to test public opinion on a particular subject and with no ax to grind, that's exactly what we did. We don't have to agree or disagree with the questions, we simply ask them and provide the client with a fair and accurate set of data reflecting public opinion." - John Zogby
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    Let's be honest... Obama was elected just like the winner of American Idol, not on his politics…. That is why his poll numbers are dropping like a rock, people are starting to see what he really is.

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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Ask and you shall recieve:



    Profoundly Uninformed Voters: How Obama Got Elected | Red County

    This is the Zogby poll the above is taken from:

    http://www.zogby.com/news/wf-dfs.pdf

    This straight from the uninformed horses mouthes:

    YouTube - How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters

    Does that work for you?
    Nope. He said that 90% of those who voted for Obama did for one of two reasons: (a) he's a minority, and (b) he's prettier than the other guy. None of the information you presented substantiated that ridiculous hyperpartisan hyperbole of a premise.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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