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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Lincoln had a LOT more experience than that:

    In the August 1832 elections for the Illinois General Assembly, he ran unsuccessfully on the Whig ticket. Two years later, he won the seat representing Sangamon County and was reelected to three more terms.

    Over the next 25 years, it was his work as an attorney, rather than a politician, that consumed most of his time.

    In 1846 he won a term as Illinois’ only Whig Congressman.

    Together with other opponents of the Act, he was instrumental in forming the new Republican Party. At the Republican national convention in 1856, he found himself placed second as candidate for vice-president.

    When he accepted the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate in 1858, Lincoln gained fame for his speech: “A house divided against itself cannot stand.” I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other." The speech created an evocative image of the danger of national disunion caused by the slavery debate, and rallied Republicans across the north. In spite of losing his run for the Senate, Lincoln was nominated for President by the Illinois Republicans and, on the third ballot, by the Republican National Convention in May 1860.

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    Alright. He served 4 terms in the state senate, and one term in the house. Other than that he gave a fancy speech, and lost a bunch of elections. Am I missing anything?
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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Alright. He served 4 terms in the state senate, and one term in the house. Other than that he gave a fancy speech, and lost a bunch of elections. Am I missing anything?
    Yeah. You're missing that Truthy can use the dictionary and you can't.
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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRevs View Post
    Yeah. You're missing that Truthy can use the dictionary and you can't.
    I'm sorry but I don't count losing elections as experience. Don't be a smart-ass and actually post something if you want to say something.
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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

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    Alright. He served 4 terms in the state senate, and one term in the house. Other than that he gave a fancy speech, and lost a bunch of elections. Am I missing anything?
    You apparently are deliberately missing a lot of this is all you got from the information I posted on Lincoln.

    Again, Obama comes to the job with the least experience of any candidate before for the last six decades. Yet when the Liberals and media attempted to defend his lack of experience, they attacked a Vice President Camdidate for lacking experience who had MORE experience and whom was merely the VP candidate and not the Presidential candidate.

    This all brings us full circle back to my question to your Liberal buddies:

    Yes it is a fact that the constitution lays out the minimum requirements, but the notion that one can become President without any experience or qualifications, well, that requires the willing suspension of disbelief.

    Did you think Palin was qualified to become President? She met those minimums.

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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Still waiting for all these people who think that electing the under-qualified is a recent development to defend Franklin Pierce's political resume.

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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Still waiting for all these people who think that electing the under-qualified is a recent development to defend Franklin Pierce's political resume.
    I am curious; who made the argument that electing the under-qualified is a recent development?


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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You apparently are deliberately missing a lot of this is all you got from the information I posted on Lincoln.
    Tell me in plain English what the point was, then. Because on a year-by-year experience, Obama wins. Just make your point already.

    Again, Obama comes to the job with the least experience of any candidate before for the last six decades. Yet when the Liberals and media attempted to defend his lack of experience, they attacked a Vice President Camdidate for lacking experience who had MORE experience and whom was merely the VP candidate and not the Presidential candidate.
    On election day, Obama had been a State Senator from 1997-2004 (8 years) and a US Senator from 2004-2008 (4 years).

    Sarah Palin had been mayor of Wasilla, Alaska from 1996-2002 (6 years) and Governor of Alaska from 2006-2008 (2 Years). She was also on the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission in 2003 (1 Year).

    So Obama had 12 years of political experience, 8 at the state level and 4 at the national level. Sarah Palin had 9 years of political experience, 6 at the local level, 1 on a committee, and 2 as governor. Correct me if I'm wrong but 12>9.

    This all brings us full circle back to my question to your Liberal buddies:

    Yes it is a fact that the constitution lays out the minimum requirements, but the notion that one can become President without any experience or qualifications, well, that requires the willing suspension of disbelief.

    Did you think Palin was qualified to become President? She met those minimums.
    I don't think she was qualified for reasons that go far beyond resumes.
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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Tell me in plain English what the point was, then. Because on a year-by-year experience, Obama wins. Just make your point already.



    On election day, Obama had been a State Senator from 1997-2004 (8 years) and a US Senator from 2004-2008 (4 years).

    Sarah Palin had been mayor of Wasilla, Alaska from 1996-2002 (6 years) and Governor of Alaska from 2006-2008 (2 Years). She was also on the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission in 2003 (1 Year).

    So Obama had 12 years of political experience, 8 at the state level and 4 at the national level. Sarah Palin had 9 years of political experience, 6 at the local level, 1 on a committee, and 2 as governor. Correct me if I'm wrong but 12>9.



    I don't think she was qualified for reasons that go far beyond resumes.
    Technically Obama may have been in the U.S. Senate from 2004 - 2008, but he was only active from January 2005 til February 2007 when he started running for President, only 2 years.

    Palin was on the city council for 4 years, mayor for 6 years, energy committee for 1 year, and governor for 2 1/2 years. So if you want to get technical, she wins 13 1/2 > 9 years.

    I don't think Obama giving pretty speeches is a qualification for president and my opinion of him is being confirmed on a daily basis.
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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Tell me in plain English what the point was, then. Because on a year-by-year experience, Obama wins. Just make your point already.
    If I may, perhaps Palin and her Boss McCain would have....

    McChrystal Says He's Talked With Obama Once Since Taking Afghanistan Command - Political News - FOXNews.com

    ..been experienced enough to speak to their Theatre Commander...perhaps twice.

    ...Or perhaps they wouldn't have promised to close Gitmo in a year without a clue as to how to do it.

    ...but I think it's more about accountability. Obama knows he can show inexperience and flat out bone things up, his supporters aren't going to hold him to account. He's a cult figure, the type not held to account. A Michael Jackson if you will, an Elvis Presley.

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    Re: Stephanopoulos points out Merriam-Webster definition of taxes to president

    I am curious; who made the argument that electing the under-qualified is a recent development?
    Perhaps you weren't following the conversation:

    Erod: Once upon a time, being president required some degree of qualifications and a resume of experience to point to.
    Me: When was that? Link?
    You: I am always amused by people who require a link to the OBVIOUS.

    Tell me something, what part of managing one of the largest Governments and most powerful country on the globe suggests that a candidate for the job should NOT require "some degree of qualifications and a resume of experience to point to?"
    Erod claimed that people used to hold politicians to high standards. I asked when this mythical time was, since I think politicians have been scraped from the bottom of the barrel since Roman times. You thought it was OBVIOUS that people used to hold politicians to high standards.

    I provided evidence that we as a society do not require any level of experience to hold the office, and gave an example of a much earlier crappy president with no qualifications from your "good ol' days" when people held politicians to high standards.

    Neither of you have provided any evidence to back your assertions at all. Consider yourselves pwned.

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