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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, God!!! The horror!!!

    Looks like a smoke screen to cover ACORN, to me. I mean, why investigate an orginization that was earmarked to receive 8 billion dollars of taxpayer money, so the staff members could advise prostitutes on how to set up leagal LLC's and evade taxes, when you can start a witch hunt about a government bureaucrat that used her position to help a private company? Because, we all know that no one has ever done anything that awful before.
    8 Billion dollar earmark? Where? Everytime I ask you you skirt around this. Where was Acorn set to receive 8 billion from the government where they've only received like 50 million over the course of 18 years?

    This investigation has been in the works for over a year now try reading the inspector general's report before coming off as ignorant

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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Well, who are we going to trust. The guy who got Jack Abramoff or Apdst?

    Real tough decision there. lol.

    Earl Devaney with an impeccable service record or Adpdst/TD?
    No they're going to claim he's a czar appointed by Obama like they already have even though he's been serving as Inspector General for the Interior for a decade or that he was a special agent for the secret service and ended up as Special Agent in Charge of the Fraud Division by the time he retired. He's obviously gotta be an Obama plant

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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    8 Billion dollar earmark? Where? Everytime I ask you you skirt around this. Where was Acorn set to receive 8 billion from the government where they've only received like 50 million over the course of 18 years?

    This investigation has been in the works for over a year now try reading the inspector general's report before coming off as ignorant
    Well, that impossible, because I haven't ever brought it up. If I had, I shurely wouldn't have skirted around it.

    Michelle Malkin ACORN Watch: Left-wing fraudsters “could get billions” in stimulus money
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, that impossible, because I haven't ever brought it up. If I had, I shurely wouldn't have skirted around it.

    Michelle Malkin ACORN Watch: Left-wing fraudsters “could get billions” in stimulus money
    Malkin is your source? Jesus you're worse than I thought. Do you have any unbiased sources for the claim? I see she's working off a hypothetical. Do you have language in the stimulus bill that earmarks money for Acorn?

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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Malkin is your source? Jesus you're worse than I thought. Do you have any unbiased sources for the claim? I see she's working off a hypothetical.
    Do you have anything to show otherwise? Perhaps that they aren't receiving anymore government money? I mean, there's a reason that Congress is voting to defund them. It's because Congress is funding them, to begin with.

    Do you have language in the stimulus bill that earmarks money for Acorn?
    If you bothered to open the link, you would see it.

    “For a further additional amount for ‘Community Development Fund,’ $4,190,000,000, to be used for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (Public Law 110–289), of which—

    “(1) not less than $3,440,000,000 shall be allocated by a competition for which eligible entities shall be States, units of general local government, and nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities[.]”

    “(2) up to $750,000,000 shall be awarded by competition to nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities to provide community stabilization assistance […]”



    The House Democrats’ trillion dollar spending bill also includes $1 billion for the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program. CDBG funds are given by the federal government to state and local governments which often contract with nonprofits for services related to the purpose of the grant.

    ACORN knows how to secure CDBG funds. Audit reports filed by ACORN’s headquarters with the Office of Management and Budget show that ACORN spent $1,588,599 in Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program funds from FY 2003 through FY 2007. It is not clear from these records when or from what source the funds were awarded to ACORN. It is also not clear whether ACORN chapters or affiliates have received CDBG grants on their own.

    House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) repeatedly urged President George W. Bush and other federal officials to withhold taxpayer funds from ACORN, including $17.2 million in federal grants awarded in December 2008 after numerous allegations of wrongdoing in connection with ACORN’s election activities were reported by the news media.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you have anything to show otherwise? Perhaps that they aren't receiving anymore government money? I mean, there's a reason that Congress is voting to defund them. It's because Congress is funding them, to begin with.
    So you're asking me to disprove your claim which you can't prove yourself. You said an earmark for acorn. Nowhere in the bill does it say ACORN will be receiving 8 billion dollars. No they're defunding the small amount they had gotten from the government.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you bothered to open the link, you would see it.
    I've already read this long discredited link from January which had no bearing on the final bill that went through the house and senate. The language she speaks of wasn't in the final bill. ACORN doesn't even qualify for the neighborhood stabilization fund. So again show me the language in the bill where Acorn is earmarked for 8 billion dollars or in the words of Sarah Palin: "In honor of our troops serving overseas quit making stuff up"

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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    So you're asking me to disprove your claim which you can't prove yourself. You said an earmark for acorn. Nowhere in the bill does it say ACORN will be receiving 8 billion dollars. No they're defunding the small amount they had gotten from the government.
    So, they are getting taxpayer monies?



    So again show me the language in the bill where Acorn is earmarked for 8 billion dollars or in the words of Sarah Palin: "In honor of our troops serving overseas quit making stuff up"

    Comparing ACORN to our military is an insult to every man and woman that's ever worn the uniform.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, they are getting taxpayer monies?
    They've gotten a total of around 53 million over the course of 15 years under democrat and republican administrations. That comes to about 3 million a year. Minute in comparison to the money they get through donations. So in other words you have no proof acorn would be getting billions from the government yet you continue to say this.



    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Comparing ACORN to our military is an insult to every man and woman that's ever worn the uniform.
    Jesus, I didn't compare ACORN to the military. I used a quote Palin stated about how she thought the media was making things up about her and she brought the military into it. Its from her resignation speech.
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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, they are getting taxpayer monies?

    They've gotten a total of around 53 million over the course of 15 years under democrat and republican administrations. That comes to about 3 million a year. Minute in comparison to the money they get through donations. So in other words you have no proof acorn would be getting billions from the government yet you continue to say this.
    I don't about where you're from, but down here on the bayou, 53 million bucks is a ****load of money.




    Jesus, I didn't compare ACORN to the military. I used a quote Palin stated about how she thought the media was making things up about her and she brought the military into it. Its from her resignation speech.

    You said that ACORn deserves the same amount of respect that our service members do. That's just offensive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't about where you're from, but down here on the bayou, 53 million bucks is a ****load of money.
    Its not when its spread out over 15 years. Compare that to the amount they get in donations its minute.





    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You said that ACORn deserves the same amount of respect that our service members do. That's just offensive.
    That's not even close to what I said. You might want to consult your eye doctor. I said show me the language in the bill earmarking money specifically to acorn or in the words of sarah palin: "how about honoring our troops overseas and quit making stuff up". If you read her resignation speech you'd see how ridiculous that line was. The point is quit making stuff up.

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