Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 25

Thread: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

  1. #11
    Goddess of Bacon

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Charlottesville, VA
    Last Seen
    05-28-12 @ 09:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    13,988

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's always seemed like one of those things that people got really worked up about, but wouldn't amount to much in the end. If a cable company decides to restrict its users unfairly, people can just go to a different company. I don't see why we need to pass laws to deal with it.
    That's not really the case, otherwise I would agree with you. Cable providers have a monopoly in certain areas. If you live in x area, you have ONE cable provider. If you live in y area, you have a different cable provider. There is no choice available, at least none that I've seen. I lived in 5 different places in DC alone and had to take the cable provider that serviced the area I was living in. I had no choices. Only one provider services an area.

    I see no issue with allowing cable providers to do as they wish with slowing things down, etc, as long as ALL cable providers are allowed to compete in all of the same areas. But as long as you are forced a certain provider due to what area you live in, I do agree that some amount of regulation need be in place to prevent them from doing stupid ****.

  2. #12
    Guru

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:10 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,469

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You should read the *BN* rules, before starting a thread.
    Redress breaking the BN posting rules? No damn way, not Redress....

    I don't care who ya are. That there is funny right there now.

    .

  3. #13
    Liberal Fascist For Life!


    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    93,331
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Redress breaking the BN posting rules? No damn way, not Redress....

    I don't care who ya are. That there is funny right there now.

    .
    It was a minor oops in that I forgot the link, and as soon as pointed out, I provided it.

    I admit, the irony of it is high though.

  4. #14
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,067

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's always seemed like one of those things that people got really worked up about, but wouldn't amount to much in the end.
    I disagree. If net neutrality was effect then it would be something we wouldn't have to worry about internet companies restricting its user unfairly.

    If a cable company decides to restrict its users unfairly, people can just go to a different company.
    Not really an option if you only have one service provider(as pointed out by rivrrat) or all the internet service providers in your area started doing this.

    I don't see why we need to pass laws to deal with it.
    Better safe than sorry and it will save any future headaches.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 09-19-09 at 10:43 PM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  5. #15
    Student LowRevs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Downeast in NC
    Last Seen
    07-12-12 @ 04:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    272

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    That's not really the case, otherwise I would agree with you. Cable providers have a monopoly in certain areas. If you live in x area, you have ONE cable provider. If you live in y area, you have a different cable provider. There is no choice available, at least none that I've seen. I lived in 5 different places in DC alone and had to take the cable provider that serviced the area I was living in. I had no choices. Only one provider services an area.

    I see no issue with allowing cable providers to do as they wish with slowing things down, etc, as long as ALL cable providers are allowed to compete in all of the same areas. But as long as you are forced a certain provider due to what area you live in, I do agree that some amount of regulation need be in place to prevent them from doing stupid ****.
    I live in an area without any choice in cable provider. No cable providers provide here. Further up the road I can get cable; further down the road I can get cable. I wish I could get cable! I don't care what cable.

    I can only get DSL at 1/2 Mbps.

    I do have my choice of satellite provider however.
    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.--Thomas Jefferson

  6. #16
    Professor
    Baralis's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    MO
    Last Seen
    12-05-17 @ 03:53 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,394
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's always seemed like one of those things that people got really worked up about, but wouldn't amount to much in the end. If a cable company decides to restrict its users unfairly, people can just go to a different company. I don't see why we need to pass laws to deal with it.
    I would agree if it were that simple. I read a report several months back that stated that ALL the major ISPs were against net neutrality. It is very possible that the ISP companies could dictate everything you see and also direct you to only sponsored sites. So take for example MSN could only allow you to view MSN and MSN friendly content blocking 99.99% of whats out there.

    Now with it costing billions of dollars for a competitor to lay thier own infrastructure before they can supply any nation/worldwide access to content, we may never see the net as we now know it.

    ISPs hope to treat the internet much like your cable television service. The net now is similar to purchasing Cable TV service and being able to watch any and all channels that exist. They want to limit you in what you can view and charge you extra for everything else.
    Last edited by Baralis; 09-22-09 at 09:30 PM.

  7. #17
    Girthless
    RightinNYC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    New York, NY
    Last Seen
    01-23-11 @ 11:56 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    25,894

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    That's not really the case, otherwise I would agree with you. Cable providers have a monopoly in certain areas. If you live in x area, you have ONE cable provider. If you live in y area, you have a different cable provider. There is no choice available, at least none that I've seen. I lived in 5 different places in DC alone and had to take the cable provider that serviced the area I was living in. I had no choices. Only one provider services an area.

    I see no issue with allowing cable providers to do as they wish with slowing things down, etc, as long as ALL cable providers are allowed to compete in all of the same areas. But as long as you are forced a certain provider due to what area you live in, I do agree that some amount of regulation need be in place to prevent them from doing stupid ****.
    I'm under the impression that even if there is only one cable company serving your area, you can almost always get satellite, or DSL, or even dial up if you like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I would agree if it were that simple. I read a report several months back that stated that ALL the major ISPs were against net neutrality. It is very possible that the ISP companies could dictate everything you see and also direct you to only sponsored sites. So take for example MSN could only allow you to view MSN and MSN friendly content blocking 99.99% of whats out there.
    Because this would be stupid and nobody would pay for it, MSN is unlike to do it.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

  8. #18
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,488

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Redress breaking the BN posting rules? No damn way, not Redress....

    I don't care who ya are. That there is funny right there now.

    .
    You would think that anyone who is so damn anal about the *BN* rules would never make a mistake like that. I mean, "how hard is it to follow the rules", right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  9. #19
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's always seemed like one of those things that people got really worked up about, but wouldn't amount to much in the end. If a cable company decides to restrict its users unfairly, people can just go to a different company. I don't see why we need to pass laws to deal with it.
    Ya, I tend to agree. This just isn't an issue that seems like that big of a deal to me. I've often heard net neutrality described as a "solution in search of a problem." Is there a major epidemic of ISPs restricting what websites people can go to? Not to my knowledge. In fact, when AT&T temporarily banned 4chan earlier this year, it made headlines. If this was a common practice, I doubt that would have happened.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  10. #20
    Goddess of Bacon

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Charlottesville, VA
    Last Seen
    05-28-12 @ 09:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    13,988

    Re: Reports: FCC to propose 'Net neutrality' rules

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I'm under the impression that even if there is only one cable company serving your area, you can almost always get satellite, or DSL, or even dial up if you like.
    Not always, no. In some cases, yes. At my parents house for instance, you have one choice for ISP. Where I'm at now, as a second example, you have one choice for an ISP.

    Still yet though, even if a satellite provider was available in addition to the cable, that's still a limited choice. I would only get satellite if it was the ONLY choice I had available. I'm pretty much on satellite now and it ****ing blows. And, dialup may not be an option at all if you actually want to DO anything while you're online.

    Point being, unless there's fair access to different providers, providers should not be allowed to both monopolize a service area and then restrict that same service area. I have no issue with them doing it as long as they are competitive with each other.



    Because this would be stupid and nobody would pay for it, MSN is unlike to do it.[/QUOTE]

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •