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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The liberals will never forgive the Republicans for impeaching their precious Clinton.
    We'll never forgive them for using OUR taxpayer dollars for their political witch hunt.....You got that right.(personally, I didn't vote for Clinton anyway but the impeachment sham was inexcusable & one of the main reason why the American voter turned against the GOP, imo)
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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The liberals will never forgive the Republicans for impeaching their precious Clinton.
    ....And Conservatives will never get Clinton's dick out of their mouths.
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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    I think Obama is going about this wrong
    you illustrate, therefore, how clumsy is this move by obama, what a political loser it is

    another gentleman on this thread calls for the purging of ms pelosi as palsied speakeress

    there ya go

    the same fella, however, brings up nuremberg

    which, with all due respect, must elicit an LOL!

    goering, streicher, frick and frank, to less partisan, politically propelled americans, do not merit mention in the same sentence with david passaro

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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ....And Conservatives will never get Clinton's dick out of their mouths.
    Very good!!

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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you illustrate, therefore, how clumsy is this move by obama, what a political loser it is
    & we certainly should take your political opinions/judegments as better than Obama's, right? (After all ....what has Obama ever done politically compared to a man of your vast political experience!

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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Those AUSA's were still working for Bush.
    No, the AUSA's were career prosecutors.

    What you are saying is that if Al Capone had been in charge of finding bootlegging problems in 1920's Chicago... & of course found nothing....that we should accept that investigation as a real one??
    The fact that you would even think to make this analogy indicates that you have no idea how the USAO's work and that it's pointless for me to bother explaining.

    Those AUSA's were under extreme pressure to not find anything wrong or they would have been fired, plain & simple (Just like the 7 U.S. Attys who WERE fired for political reasons)
    Link? If that's true, why did they prosecute one guy?
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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    No, the AUSA's were career prosecutors.
    Career or not, they still work for the Executive Brnch & Bush was the chief executive. (are you seriously going to argue that government employees do not work under a President in the chain of command?)



    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The fact that you would even think to make this analogy indicates that you have no idea how the USAO's work and that it's pointless for me to bother explaining.
    I have worked with AUSA's most of my life & know that ALL government employees are subject to pressure from above them. (I assume AUSA is what you meant when you typed USAO's above?....I have no idea what a USAO is if not??)



    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Link? If that's true, why did they prosecute one guy?
    It's being investigated right now & prosecutions will undoubtedly be coming. I don't have time to find links for your right now but just Google U.S. Atty firings & you'll find plenty.
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-19-09 at 02:58 PM.

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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Career or not, they still work for the Executive Brnch & Bush was the chief executive. (are you seriously going to argue that government employees do not work under a President in the chain of command?)

    I have worked with AUSA's (I assume that is what you meant when you typed USAO's above?) most of my life & know that ALL government employees are subject to pressure from above them.
    USAO = US Atty. Office

    Of course they're part of the executive branch, but career prosecutors in the DoJ have a large degree of autonomy. The EDVA in particular has been noted for its independence and integrity. You're making ridiculous assertions without any clue of what you're talking about.


    It's being investigated right now & prosecutions will undoubtedly be coming. I don't have time to find links for your right now but just Google U.S. Atty firings & you'll find plenty.
    You're misunderstanding me. When the AUSAs investigated these issues years ago, they did bring charges against one individual who was eventually convicted. This directly contradicts your bull**** claim that "Those AUSA's were under extreme pressure to not find anything wrong or they would have been fired, plain & simple."
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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Of course they're part of the executive branch, but career prosecutors in the DoJ have a large degree of autonomy. The EDVA in particular has been noted for its independence and integrity.
    They did have "a large degree of autonomy" prior to the Bush Justice Dept...........Bush changed all that & I suggest you watch some of the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing available here C-SPAN | Capitol Hill, The White House and National Politics to see how badly politicized the Bush Justice Dept was made. (I would also suggest you contact Senator Whitehouse's office for info on this)




    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You're misunderstanding me. When the AUSAs investigated these issues years ago, they did bring charges against one individual who was eventually convicted. This directly contradicts your bull**** claim that "Those AUSA's were under extreme pressure to not find anything wrong or they would have been fired, plain & simple."
    I did misunderstand you & would have to look into your claim that that charges were brought. Even if true, it's a stretch to believe the Bush Justice Dept would investigate itself...impartially!
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-19-09 at 03:15 PM.

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    Re: 7 ex CIA Chiefs Ask Obama to Drop AG's Probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    They did have "a large degree of autonomy" prior to the Bush Justice Dept...........Bush changed all that & I suggest you watch some of the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing available here C-SPAN | Capitol Hill, The White House and National Politics to see how badly politicized the Bush Justice Dept was made. (I would also suggest you contact Senator Whitehouse's office for info on this)
    Sure, let me just ask a liberal Democratic Senator whether he thinks Republicans politicized something. Can't see how that would be a problem.


    I did misunderstand you & would have to look into your claim that that charges were brought. Even if true, it's a stretch to believe the Bush Justice Dept would investigate itself...impartially!
    No, you don't have to "look into my claim," as it's explicitly stated in the OP. This is kind of an important facet of the story.
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