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    Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

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    Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    The United States is overhauling Bush-era plans for a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe, based partly on the latest analysis of Iran's offensive capabilities, President Obama said Thursday.The "new missile defense architecture in Europe ... will provide capabilities sooner, build on proven systems and offer greater defenses against the threat of missile attack than the... program" that former President George W. Bush proposed, Obama said.Obama said the change of gears was based on an "updated intelligence assessment" about Iran's ability to hit Europe with missiles.The Islamic republic's "short- and medium-range" missiles pose the most current threat, he said, and "this new ballistic missile defense will best address" that threat.
    Now we have two presidents who have both found it critical to spend billions of dollars on missile defense in Europe. Maybe the "nay-sayers" about missile defense will get a clue now that the Messiah is on board. That is, MAYBE, just maybe, missile defense is a smart and necessary move.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Why exactly are we wasting tons of money to protect Europe, especially if they aren't in any particular danger from Iran anyways? Its a waste of money and pisses off Russia for nothing in return. The money would be much better into R&D to improve the system to avoid another fiasco like the Gulf War.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Why exactly are we wasting tons of money to protect Europe, especially if they aren't in any particular danger from Iran anyways? Its a waste of money and pisses off Russia for nothing in return. The money would be much better into R&D to improve the system to avoid another fiasco like the Gulf War.
    Did it occur to you that a missile coming from Iran would be above European soil if it is to be launched towards the US?
    Sometimes I'm just surprised by the posts of some users here, and I'm not easy to surprise.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Do we have any verifiable proof that Iran has actual nukes? Also do we have proof that their missiles are capable of reaching the eastern seaboard?

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Why exactly are we wasting tons of money to protect Europe,
    Because Europes problems have always become ours: WW1 and 2, Bosnia, Kosovo, Serbia.

    especially if they aren't in any particular danger from Iran anyways?
    Apprently BOTH presidents disagree with you. Are they BOTH lying? It was easy for people to claim Bush was a liar but when Obama repeats what Bush says people are dumbstruck.

    Its a waste of money
    Apathy is often more expensive. The saying applies; laziness pays off now but hardwork pays off with dividends later.

    and pisses off Russia
    russians seem pleased at the moment. We'll have to see if they release a press report. Russians like the fact that Obama has moved it away from the eastern bloc nations Bush was planning it for.

    for nothing in return.
    its called "missile defense" and it works.

    The money would be much better into R&D to improve the system to avoid another fiasco like the Gulf War.
    What system would that be? Both Bush and Obama are confident that Iran is developing nuclear energy as a means by which to easily produce nuclear weapons if they ever choose to. Coupled with their ever increasing ballistic missile capabilties, Iran is the greatest threat and may even trigger an arms race in the ME as Saudis, Iraq, and others struggle to keep pace.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    ya we all know we need to cut money but instead of cutting our protection lest cut the stuff that need cut

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Do we have any verifiable proof that Iran has actual nukes?
    they have a nuclear power plant that is capable of producing weapons grade material. They also have short medium and are developing long range weapons. They have all the pieces necessary and are keeping what they are doing hidden. Do we need a mushroom cloud before we even begin to respond to the obvious?

    Also do we have proof that their missiles are capable of reaching the eastern seaboard?
    its not our homeland we are worried about at the moment from Iran.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Did it occur to you that a missile coming from Iran would be above European soil if it is to be launched towards the US?
    Sometimes I'm just surprised by the posts of some users here, and I'm not easy to surprise.
    Iran isn't even close to building a missile capable of hitting us. Furthermore, hitting ICBM's is not within the specs for our current system, so it wouldn't work even if they did.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Iran isn't even close to building a missile capable of hitting us. Furthermore, hitting ICBM's is not within the specs for our current system, so it wouldn't work even if they did.
    the concern is far less for us and far more for isrel (sorry about the spelling) like we are more worried for south korea than our selves

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    they have a nuclear power plant that is capable of producing weapons grade material. They also have short medium and are developing long range weapons. They have all the pieces necessary and are keeping what they are doing hidden. Do we need a mushroom cloud before we even begin to respond to the obvious?
    Good god what a bad misconception. Nuclear Power Plants do not create weapons grade material. The International Atomic Energy Agency in multiple reports have stated that Iran does not have the proper material to create weapons grade uranium. They don't have ICBMs that are capable of even reaching our soil. And enough fearmongering about mushroom clouds Condeleeza you already played that trick once with Iraq.

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