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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    red herring. Nuclear power plants do not make weapons grade material when generating electricity. No one claimed they did. Theproblem is Iran is enriching its own material even though they were given international guarantees of being provided nuclear fuel if they would not produce it themselves. They refused. Ever wonder why?

    you are dead wrong. They have every ability to make it if they choose
    IAEA Chief: Iran Could Make Nuke In 6 Months - wcbstv.com
    No one claimed they did? So it was your twin that said this on the first page?

    "they have a nuclear power plant that is capable of producing weapons grade material"

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    And their are many open questions about why highly enriched particles were found:
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...-nuclear_x.htm
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Any kid on the internet could find the information to make a dirty bomb but the question is do they have the expertise and materials to make it. Also the IAEA hasn't confirmed they have any delivery capabilities as of yet.
    Yes, I'm sure that the IAEA is there because they're concerned that they might download the instructions for how to make a dirty bomb off the internet. There can't possibly be anything else there that's concerning, nor can they be farther along than that.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Yes, I'm sure that the IAEA is there because they're concerned that they might download the instructions for how to make a dirty bomb off the internet. There can't possibly be anything else there that's concerning, nor can they be farther along than that.
    Did you read your article. It clearly stated they had the information but I didn't hear much in regards to materials, expertise, etc. Also no delivery capability that they could confirm. They're a while off. Besides Israel can't seem to make up their mind about Iran and they're neighbors. Saying anywhere from 5 years to a few months to them having no capability

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    It really does continue to amaze me the lengths to which people will go give brutal dictatorships a pass in order to make their partisan side look better.

    PogueMoran, be honest. Do you think they're not actually working on a bomb and a means to deliver it? Honestly?
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    It was on Right's source saying they haven't been able to confirm if they have delivery capabilities.
    nor can they deny.

    There's also information that the documents about Iran's "nuclear program" are forged.
    which documents? All you have is bald faced assertions.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It really does continue to amaze me the lengths to which people will go give brutal dictatorships a pass in order to make their partisan side look better.

    PogueMoran, be honest. Do you think they're not actually working on a bomb and a means to deliver it? Honestly?
    I'll bet $5:

    "Absent any direct evidence, the only honest opinion I can have is that I do not know".

    Takers?

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'll bet $5:

    "Absent any direct evidence, the only honest opinion I can have is that I do not know".

    Takers?
    Well, obviously, that won't be his answer now.

    It never ceases to amaze me, though, that people who say this kind of thing also take it for granted that Israel has nukes.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It really does continue to amaze me the lengths to which people will go give brutal dictatorships a pass in order to make their partisan side look better.

    PogueMoran, be honest. Do you think they're not actually working on a bomb and a means to deliver it? Honestly?
    Honestly, I think we should worry more about the people who recently acquired them than Iran. Most people think their president is crazy, and he is, but he holds no power. With Israel next door with Nukes they're pretty kept in check. Also they're less of a threat than say China who could strike our western seaboard. Iran is years off and doesn't have ICBM capabilities.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'll bet $5:

    "Absent any direct evidence, the only honest opinion I can have is that I do not know".

    Takers?
    You should try not guessing what other people say after the other debate where you totally stopped talking after creating a logical fallacy. We're talking about what's realistic here and what is realistic is they do not have the long range capabilities or the nukes to threaten the US

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Honestly, I think we should worry more about the people who recently acquired them than Iran. Most people think their president is crazy, and he is, but he holds no power. With Israel next door with Nukes they're pretty kept in check. Also they're less of a threat than say China who could strike our western seaboard. Iran is years off and doesn't have ICBM capabilities.
    So, that's a yes, they are working on it?
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