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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

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    Pffft, it's still inferior to my plan...which has mechs.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Information and material being two different things. They may have the information but thus far we haven't seen anything to show that they have been successful in making weapons grade fission material
    So because we don't have physical proof that they have completed such a task already, that means that there is no likelihood that they will complete such a task at any point in the future?

    Personally, I think a confirmation from the IAEA that they have the capability to develop it and are seeking to develop the necessary missile delivery program should be indications that they're not being exactly aboveboard on this one.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So what weapon systems that Iran is working threaten us? I think they are a long way from ICBMs
    I said "threaten ur or our allies", and as such they need not have to have a true ICBM, just one that can reach Europe.

    That is, after all, the subject under discussion here - missile defense in Europe.

    And, like I mentioned before, given the damage potential of the weapons in question, prudence demands that you stay ahead of the capabilities of your foe -- and so, the weapons they have NOW doesnt mean anything.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

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    A couple o' BattleMasters on the border would cause anyone to think twice.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    So because we don't have physical proof that they have completed such a task already, that means that there is no likelihood that they will complete such a task at any point in the future?

    Personally, I think a confirmation from the IAEA that they have the capability to develop it and are seeking to develop the necessary missile delivery program should be indications that they're not being exactly aboveboard on this one.
    Any kid on the internet could find the information to make a dirty bomb but the question is do they have the expertise and materials to make it. Also the IAEA hasn't confirmed they have any delivery capabilities as of yet.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Its no secret that Iran continues to develop longer and longer range missile technology. Its also no secret that they are succeeding.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Any kid on the internet could find the information to make a dirty bomb
    Who said anything about dirty bombs?? Another red-herring from you.

    but the question is do they have the expertise and materials to make it.
    YES. You've been given the links to it. 6 months to a few years and they would have a bomb. And that's assuming that aren't already researching and developing now

    Also the IAEA hasn't confirmed they have any delivery capabilities as of yet.
    source? Is this an argument from silence?
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Who said anything about dirty bombs?? Another red-herring from you.

    YES. You've been given the links to it. 6 months to a few years.

    source?
    It was a comparison. Having information and knowing how to use it are two different things.
    It was on Right's source saying they haven't been able to confirm if they have delivery capabilities. There's also information that the documents about Iran's "nuclear program" are forged.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    So because we don't have physical proof that they have completed such a task already, that means that there is no likelihood that they will complete such a task at any point in the future?

    Personally, I think a confirmation from the IAEA that they have the capability to develop it and are seeking to develop the necessary missile delivery program should be indications that they're not being exactly aboveboard on this one.
    No, no... you need to wait until there is a smoking radioactive crater where a Western city once stood before you can even begin to argue that you need to build defenses.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    We need to elect a republican president in 2012, just to undo crap like this.

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