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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Well then we should waste money building missile shields everywhere as any country can buy nukes from russia and china
    now your thinking i still like the star wars plan (I really am telling the truth)

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Do we have any verifiable proof that Iran has actual nukes? Also do we have proof that their missiles are capable of reaching the eastern seaboard?
    These questions proceed from a false premise -- that a threat must actually exist before the defense for tha threat can be developed and/or deployed.

    Given the damage potential of the weapons in question, prudence demands that you stay ahead of the capabilities of your foe. Waiting to install a defense until -after- he can use it may very well be too late, and may very well incent him to use it while he still can.

    As for Iranian efforts and capoabilities...

    AP NewsBreak: Nuke agency says Iran can make bomb

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Pffft, it's still inferior to my plan...which has mechs.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Nuclear Power Plants do not create weapons grade material.
    red herring. Nuclear power plants do not make weapons grade material when generating electricity. No one claimed they did. Theproblem is Iran is enriching its own material even though they were given international guarantees of being provided nuclear fuel if they would not produce it themselves. They refused. Ever wonder why?

    The International Atomic Energy Agency in multiple reports have stated that Iran does not have the proper material to create weapons grade uranium.
    you are dead wrong. They have every ability to make it if they choose
    http://wcbstv.com/national/israel.ir....2.755478.html

    And their are many open questions about why highly enriched particles were found:
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...-nuclear_x.htm

    They don't have ICBMs that are capable of even reaching our soil.
    not yet. But that is not our main worry at the moment. Its our interest in Europe that is.

    And enough fearmongering about mushroom clouds Condeleeza you already played that trick once with Iraq.
    cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Pffft, it's still inferior to my plan...which has mechs.
    have you been playing mech quest a little to much?

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    These questions proceed from a false premise -- that a threat must actually exist before the defense for tha threat can be developed and/or deployed.
    So then we should also prepare and defend against the space aliens? Or the Mole people?

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So then we should also prepare and defend against the space aliens? Or the Mole people?
    Unless you can show that we know space aliens are presently working on weapons systems that can threaten us and/or our allies, your question is a non-sequitur -- and a really sad attempt to refute the irrefutable.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So then we should also prepare and defend against the space aliens? Or the Mole people?
    what kind of intel do you have on them?
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by 75Greeno View Post
    have you been playing mech quest a little to much?
    No such thing. And hey, if you were on the battle field and saw a ginormous mech walking at you, wouldn't you run away? Less I was on Team Dia Gurren, I'd be running; that's for sure.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Unless you can show that we know space aliens are presently working on weapons systems that can threaten us and/or our allies, your question is a non-sequitur -- and a really sad attempt to refute the irrefutable.
    So what weapon systems that Iran is working threaten us? I think they are a long way from ICBMs

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