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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    CNN || Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan



    Now we have two presidents who have both found it critical to spend billions of dollars on missile defense in Europe. Maybe the "nay-sayers" about missile defense will get a clue now that the Messiah is on board. That is, MAYBE, just maybe, missile defense is a smart and necessary move.
    Europe has plenty of money. They can defend themselves. We can't afford our own priorities, let alone pay for them.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    In my view your position about abandoning the missle defense system ( missles/radar) cannot be more wrong. The missle defense was not necessarily as a shield against the Ranting Runts of Ramadan aka Iranians it is a shield against any evil threat to Europe. That includes Russia and it's surrogates. We all understand that the actual number of missles of the shield would not deflect a full frontal assault by the vodka crazed Russians but it is a strong symbolic middle finger aimed at the sons of the Bolsheviks.

    President Obam made a very serious error in judgement by this policy. He will learn probably soon that the vodka swilling Czaristas cannot be trusted to behave as civilized humans and need to be show that we are ready to use the fist in the face.
    He's an idiot with more czars than Russian history or any other president. The Dems have hated this program from the start, because it destroyed their beloved USSR, and can't wait to spend the money on more welfare votes.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And as you said:
    This is the answer he gave.
    Played him like a fiddle, I'd say.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    The shield could only stop a tiny % of Russian missiles. It really wouldn't provide any defense at all from Russia.
    Which is a principle fact ignored by those that argue that the ABM system threatened Russian deterrence, therefore granting legitimacy to Russian complaints.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The Cold War ended nearly 30 years ago and yet the Russians are still the threat?
    The Cold War ended 18 years ago, and no one said Russia was "the threat."

    So:

    The above are the type of comments and narrow minded focus that makes you want to pull your hair out!!
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    The shield could only stop a tiny % of Russian missiles. It really wouldn't provide any defense at all from Russia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Which is a principle fact ignored by those that argue that the ABM system threatened Russian deterrence, therefore granting legitimacy to Russian complaints.
    Hence, the reason to shift the focus of this missle defense system away from Russia and onto the threat of today - radical Islam. It just makes no sense whatsoever to spend millions of tax payer dollar on a missle defense system to fight an enemy you defeated two decades ago. (30 years was a type-o in my earlier post. Thanks for correcting me, Harshaw.)

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Hence, the reason to shift the focus of this missle defense system away from Russia and onto the threat of today - radical Islam. It just makes no sense whatsoever to spend millions of tax payer dollar on a missle defense system to fight an enemy you defeated two decades ago. (30 years was a type-o in my earlier post. Thanks for correcting me, Harshaw.)
    You seem to be proceeding from the assumption that the missiles would have been in Czech and Poland to stop Russian missiles. This would be incorrect.
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Hence, the reason to shift the focus of this missle defense system away from Russia and onto the threat of today - radical Islam. It just makes no sense whatsoever to spend millions of tax payer dollar on a missle defense system to fight an enemy you defeated two decades ago. (30 years was a type-o in my earlier post. Thanks for correcting me, Harshaw.)
    How about the War on Poverty which we lost two decades ago? We still spend on that, but that's different isn't it?
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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Hence, the reason to shift the focus of this missle defense system away from Russia and onto the threat of today - radical Islam. It just makes no sense whatsoever to spend millions of tax payer dollar on a missle defense system to fight an enemy you defeated two decades ago. (30 years was a type-o in my earlier post. Thanks for correcting me, Harshaw.)
    The European ABM system -is- intended to defend from radical Islam, and is -not- intended to defend from the Russians.

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    Re: Obama scraps Bush-era missile defense for new plan

    I remember watching Bush on TV saying he would share the missile defense with the Russians. Not even that pleased our leftist friends.
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