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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    I can't see signing statements as anything other than the President legislating...which I was sure he wasn't supposed to do. Of course, Executive Orders have been used for quite some time by many Presidents for the same purpose of legislation. Those should be restricted as well. But fat chance getting the government to give up power.
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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Rational and reasonable supporters of The Obama are, at present, wondering exactly when the "change" they voted for will arrive.

    The partisan, bigoted kool-aid drinkers will defend The Obama no matter what.
    Some one who is part of the lunatic extreme far right fringe telling liberals what they should find "rational and reasonable" is amusing.

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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Some one who is part of the lunatic extreme far right fringe telling liberals what they should find "rational and reasonable" is amusing.
    So tell me:
    Where is the "change"?

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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So tell me:
    Where is the "change"?
    We are working on health care reform now, which has been badly needed, and Bush did not tackle. That is one change right off the top of my head.

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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We are working on health care reform now, which has been badly needed, and Bush did not tackle. That is one change right off the top of my head.
    But, as demonstrated by this instance as well as and several others, there has been NO change, change that was specifically promised by The Obama.

    So, are you among the rational and reasonable, or of the partisan bigots?

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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We are working on health care reform now, which has been badly needed, and Bush did not tackle. That is one change right off the top of my head.
    This is actually not factually true.

    Bush did end up doing something involving reform of Health Care, namely the Perscription Drug plan early on in his presidency. You may disagree with it, or the scope of it, but to say he didn't tackle any time of health care reform is just not factually true.

    Now, it is true he did not address it in the later years of his Presidency when the call for it became MUCH greater than it was in 2000 or 2002...however at that time the War in Iraq and the Economy was of greater importance and the public was much louder about it than health care. It was not until 2006-2008, especially 2008, when it became a prime platform component pushed by Democrats that it became a major issue in the minds of the large majority of the public.

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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    But, as demonstrated by this instance as well as and several others, there has been NO change, change that was specifically promised by The Obama.

    So, are you among the rational and reasonable, or of the partisan bigots?
    You asked for change, I gave you a change. Now it's not good enough. Bummer. There are a number of clear differences between Obama and Bush, it's not my fault you are not rational or reasonable but are a partisan bigot.

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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You asked for change, I gave you a change. Now it's not good enough. Bummer. There are a number of clear differences between Obama and Bush, it's not my fault you are not rational or reasonable but are a partisan bigot.
    Absolutely correct....


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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I've become to see it more as Major League Bush.

    You know....

    Bush on Steroids

    Its almost everything I hated about Bush, with few of the things I liked about him, and then a heap load of extra crap I can't stand.

    Hope and Change baby. Hope and Change.
    The main difference being, Bush was using common sense to do what is best for the country. PBO is doing what is worst for the country. Either he knows exactly how he's screwing up our nation, or he's just friggin' stupid. Take your pick.
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    Re: Ignoring a Law on Foreign Relations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The main difference being, Bush was using common sense to do what is best for the country. PBO is doing what is worst for the country. Either he knows exactly how he's screwing up our nation, or he's just friggin' stupid. Take your pick.
    Bush and Obama acted in an essentially identical fashion as relates to the topic of this thread. If you disagree with that, explain why. If you want to talk about healthcare or some other unrelated things, please do so elsewhere.
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