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    75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the U.S

    See it at 75 Percent of Oklahoma Students Can't Name the First President.

    This real folks, and no one seems to mind....

    The majority of Americans are against health care reform you say?

    The majority of Americans don't know who George Washington is either...

    I got a kick out of this anectode regarding the students in one of the most conservative states in America as well:

    "About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on their first try, according to immigration service data. However, Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test."

    11 percent also thought the two major political parties in the US were Communists and Republicans. Source: Here
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    and so it goes...

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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    See it at 75 Percent of Oklahoma Students Can't Name the First President.

    Majority of Americans are against health care reform you say?

    Majority of Americans don't know who George Washington is either...

    I got a kick out of this anectode regarding the students in one of the most conservative states in America as well:

    "About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on their first try, according to immigration service data. However, Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test."
    I guarantee you that you'd see almost identical results if this survey were repeated in DC/MA/CA or even WI. It's got very little to do with how conservative OK is and very much to do with high school students don't really give a ****.
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I guarantee you that you'd see almost identical results if this survey were repeated in DC/MA/CA or even WI. It's got very little to do with how conservative OK is and very much to do with high school students don't really give a ****.
    Like these Oklahoma statistics.....Yes teenage pregnancy and poor education don't go hand in hand do they?

    http://www.americaforpurchase.com/wp...porm_rates.jpg

    What it boils down to is poor rural whites who will not fund their schools properly. http://teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state
    (Notice the list of States valuing teachers the least...it's a who's who of Red States)

    Too busy at their local Baptist church demonizing gays and minorities.
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I guarantee you that you'd see almost identical results if this survey were repeated in DC/MA/CA or even WI. It's got very little to do with how conservative OK is and very much to do with high school students don't really give a ****.
    Do they not eventually become the future of America? This is the direction our country is going in, and you write it off as mere ignorance of the youth.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Do they not eventually become the future of America? This is the direction our country is going in, and you write it off as mere ignorance of the youth.
    No, I'm writing it off as high school kids don't give a **** and don't care about answering phone surveys about boring ****.

    I'm also loath to believe these results when the organization commissioning the polls was very clearly seeking this exact result.

    Look at some of the responses:






    Here's the things that immediately pop into mind:

    -"I don't know" is pretty much the most popular answer. I would bet that's due to kids not really giving a **** about the survey.

    -Many kids were obviously just ****ing with the pollsters. Do you think that kids actually believed that Michael Jackson wrote the Declaration of Independence? Or that a full 10% of the state believes that the first president was GWB or Obama?

    -Some of the questions are just plain wrong - The governor is the head of a executive branch.

    I say the same thing every time someone comes out with one of these "omg our youth are so dumb!!!!111" surveys. The secret truth that olds don't want you to know is that despite all this, today's youth are by and large significantly smarter and more talented than any previous generation.
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Here's Oklahoma's ACT scores...nearly the lowest in the Nation


    http://www.act.org/news/data/09/states.html
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Here's Oklahoma's SAT scores...nearly the lowest in the Nation

    SAT Scores 2009


    Readingcompfail.

    That ranking is by "percentage of students who take the SAT." Students in OK, like in most midwestern states, generally take the ACT rather than the SAT.

    If you look at the actual scores in your link, OK does quite well. Their combined average of 1703 is 200 points higher than average and places them 12th in the nation.

    Try again.

    edit: I see you realized your mistake and reverted to ACT scores. Still doesn't help you. They come in 35th out of 50 - not "almost last in the nation" like you misleadingly claim.
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post


    Readingcompfail.

    That ranking is by "percentage of students who take the SAT." Students in OK, like in most midwestern states, generally take the ACT rather than the SAT.

    If you look at the actual scores in your link, OK does quite well. Their combined average of 1703 is 200 points higher than average and places them 12th in the nation.

    Try again.

    edit: I see you realized your mistake and reverted to ACT scores. Still doesn't help you. They come in 35th out of 50 - not "almost last in the nation" like you misleadingly claim.

    I stand corrected....35 out of 50 is great!

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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post


    Readingcompfail.

    That ranking is by "percentage of students who take the SAT." Students in OK, like in most midwestern states, generally take the ACT rather than the SAT.

    If you look at the actual scores in your link, OK does quite well. Their combined average of 1703 is 200 points higher than average and places them 12th in the nation.

    Try again.

    edit: I see you realized your mistake and reverted to ACT scores. Still doesn't help you. They come in 35th out of 50 - not "almost last in the nation" like you misleadingly claim.

    I stand corrected....35 out of 50 is great!

    They are really showing those Blue States how it's done!

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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    I stand corrected....35 out of 50 is great!

    They are really showing those Blue States how it's done!
    I'd wager that most of them could read and understand the first table you linked.
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