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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    I think it is fairly apparent that Americans are just generally ignorant.

    Young Americans Geographically Illiterate, Survey Suggests

    - 63 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 failed to correctly locate (Iraq) on a map of the Middle East.
    - Seventy percent could not find Iran or Israel.
    - Nine in ten couldn't find Afghanistan on a map of Asia.
    - 54 percent were unaware that Sudan is a country in Africa. Three-quarters of respondents failed to find that country on a map.
    - Three-quarters were unaware that a majority of Indonesia's population is Muslim, making it the largest Muslim country in the world.

    Young Americans Geographically Illiterate, Survey Suggests

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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Another person who apparently can't read the fine print.

    You've listed the top 16 of the 17 states that have over 60% SAT participation, which are the only ones listed at your link.

    As was noted earlier in this thread, students in the Northeast tend to take the SAT while students elsewhere tend to take the ACT.

    If you actually look at the SAT scores for those students who take it in those other states (not that it's a good analogy, but hey, you brought it up), you'd see that OK beats the living **** out of every state that you list, with an average SAT of 1703.
    Out of fairness, it would be extremely helpful if somebody had a list of the percentage of students that take each respective test by state. States with a lower percentage of students taking a test are more likely to have higher scores, especially when this is not the norm. This is due to the fact that SAT and ACT tests are not a random sampling, they are comprised of the most motivated and academically prepared students among their peers. When students take the SAT in an ACT dominated region, this would mean they are appealing to schools outside that region- often times private schools in the northeast or larger state schools out west. And if you want to link politics in, those eastern private schools tend to have top notch programs in poli sci, humanities, and business, programs that rely more upon history than larger state schools, which tend to have a bigger balance with science and engineering programs.

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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Like these Oklahoma statistics.....Yes teenage pregnancy and poor education don't go hand in hand do they?

    http://www.americaforpurchase.com/wp...porm_rates.jpg

    What it boils down to is poor rural whites who will not fund their schools properly. Teacher Salaries By State | Average Salaries For Teachers | Beginning Salaries For Teachers | Teacher Raises | TeacherPortal.com
    (Notice the list of States valuing teachers the least...it's a who's who of Red States)

    Too busy at their local Baptist church demonizing gays and minorities.
    Painting with a broad brush will only make you look as ignorant as these individuals unfamiliar with George Washington.
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Actually, I have never found any proof that Peyton Randolph, our first President, ever owned slaves.

    Nor that he was a distiller, nor was he in the military. While he was from Virginia, he was a lawyer and politician, not a plantation owner.
    I see what you did there.

    For those of you who do not know, Randolph was the first President of the Continental Congress, the first national government of the United States during the American Revolution.
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    OK, that indicates that 2% are ****ing with the pollsters.



    I wouldn't be at all surprised if they did, honestly.



    Combine the two correct answers (president and governor) and that's still only 39%.



    I think you'd find roughly the same results if you conducted this survey on adults instead of just high school students. It's not so much a matter of YOUTH being dumb...it's a matter of most people being dumb. And they definitely are.
    I think you are missing the point... people **** with pollsters. Then people, such as the OP, actually take these results seriously. I find it hard to believe that any high school student without a mental disorder thinks that our current President was also our first President.
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I see what you did there.

    For those of you who do not know, Randolph was the first President of the Continental Congress, the first national government of the United States during the American Revolution.
    Off topic, but would the continental congress be considered a past government of our current nation? I guess I always though of that period as a transitional authority, and that the history of the (current) U.S. didn't start until after the revolution and the United States was recognized abroad. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Thread: I use numbers and charts to justify my irritating political tendencies without thinking deeper about why students are not producing the desired outcome.
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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    where is this statistic coming from it just sounds like a lie

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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyloveafight View Post
    I think it is fairly apparent that Americans are just generally ignorant.

    Young Americans Geographically Illiterate, Survey Suggests

    - 63 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 failed to correctly locate (Iraq) on a map of the Middle East. - Seventy percent could not find Iran or Israel.
    - Nine in ten couldn't find Afghanistan on a map of Asia.
    - 54 percent were unaware that Sudan is a country in Africa. Three-quarters of respondents failed to find that country on a map.
    - Three-quarters were unaware that a majority of Indonesia's population is Muslim, making it the largest Muslim country in the world.

    Young Americans Geographically Illiterate, Survey Suggests
    Well when you read from maps like this it's no surprise.


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    Re: 75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the

    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsavich View Post
    Off topic, but would the continental congress be considered a past government of our current nation? I guess I always though of that period as a transitional authority, and that the history of the (current) U.S. didn't start until after the revolution and the United States was recognized abroad. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
    The United States, as a political entity and as a country, began during the revolution.

    The current government of the United States was created in 1788 upon ratification of the current Constitution.

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