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New Acorn Video Scandal Emerges- Employee Asks For Sex

Hm...okay.

I think ACORN employees who do this are scum, and those who protect them are no better.

next. :mrgreen:

I don't think acorn was protecting these people any more than I think the catholic church was protecting priests. I do think acorn was more proactive in getting rid of these elements though.
 
I don't care what you CLAIM you are, I can only go on your arguments and the fact that you use lies and distortions to support your uninformed highly emotional hyperbole. Your recent attempts to take my comments out of context are evidence of your lack of integrity.

Emotional? You really gotta find a new form filler Truth. You sure use those words quite a bit and its starting to read as if you're using some kind of nonsense generator for your posts. There's nothing emotional about my responses. I don't let people on message boards make me emotional you on the other hand seem to get all emotional in your responses. Going off on nonsense rants and railing against random groups and people you hate. I didn't take your comments out of context. You're railing about Acorn meanwhile dismissing the Interior Department investigation while calling the inspector general essentially a partisan hack.

Democrats are well known for using the same despicable tactics.

Answer this honestly; who did you vote for in the last election?

I did a writein for Jacques Cousteau. I thought he'd sincerely rise from the dead and save us!

I saw your amusing attempt to support your farcical claims using opinion poll data; but you seemed to ignore the falling poll ratings post 9-11 and ignore the New York Times, the Washington Posts and the DNCs assault on the Bush Administration which helped to drive Bush's polls to all time lows.

I know those opinion polls they gotta be liberal because they relate to how people who are interviewed are thinking at a certain time. Damn those liberal polls who all gave Bush high approval ratings. Even though they dropped they still stayed pretty steady above 50% until the iraq war went south. Yeah the New York Times, WAPO etc who failed to ask questions in the run up to the Iraq war who chearleaded the war and didn't think critically. You have issues with your memory Truth. The media was pretty complacent in the runup to the war.

Your credibility is beyond lacking and the notion that your desperate attempts to support Liberals as not being consistent with being a Liberal is beyond laughable.

Support liberals? Which part of me saying there should be an investigation of ACORN do you not get? They should be investigated but until that comes I see this for what it is. A filmmaker who has an announced agenda and that is showing certain organizations are bad. You seem to think everyone opposite of your brand of crazy must be a liberal. That may be true though as you seem to slant far to the right.

I don't care if Acorn gets investigated and many here don't either; the issue is that Acorn is a patently partisan political organization that receives funds from the US Government. It is offensive and rightfully being ended now.

The funds from the government are being pulled. Problem being solved. Ending an organization that helps many poor people will create a hole. Every organization has their fill of bad apples. Now do you think we should break up blackwater when some of their employees have murdered people?

The irony here is that you continue to read through your "liberal" blinders what you want to read and refuse to comprehend what is being argued.

"liberal blinders" "on a rant don't mind me" This is all I see from you continued rants and accussing people of being "liberals"

Why must you continue trying to derail threads with arguments from other threads and not keep them there?

Nothing derailing about it pointing out the hypocrisy you accuse others of

Your desperate assertions about what I am claiming are patently false and attempts to lie about my positions. Why do you continue LYING in your vain attempts to support your obviously absurd partisan political positions?

This is false: "you claiming there's nothing to see with the Interior Department"

This is false: "You think this isn't a problem but Acorn is when they havent been investigated yet"

So it begs the question, why do you feel compelled to lie and misrepresent what has been argued; because your arguments contain little in the way of substance, are baseless, lack facts and credible support?

Not false you're railing on about Acorn which hasn't been investigated while calling Devaney a partisan hack for investigating and finding violations within the department of interior.
 
Emotional? You really gotta find a new form filler Truth. You sure use those words quite a bit and its starting to read as if you're using some kind of nonsense generator for your posts. There's nothing emotional about my responses. I don't let people on message boards make me emotional you on the other hand seem to get all emotional in your responses. Going off on nonsense rants and railing against random groups and people you hate. I didn't take your comments out of context. You're railing about Acorn meanwhile dismissing the Interior Department investigation while calling the inspector general essentially a partisan hack.

Nothing more than an outright lie; you just cannot seem to help yourself, but it is to be expected from someone who lacks integrity and cannot form a coherent thought or argument to support your distorted political points of view.


I did a writein for Jacques Cousteau. I thought he'd sincerely rise from the dead and save us!

Nothing more than another lie; you can’t even be honest for something as simple as this.


I know those opinion polls they gotta be liberal because they relate to how people who are interviewed are thinking at a certain time. Damn those liberal polls who all gave Bush high approval ratings. Even though they dropped they still stayed pretty steady above 50% until the iraq war went south. Yeah the New York Times, WAPO etc who failed to ask questions in the run up to the Iraq war who chearleaded the war and didn't think critically. You have issues with your memory Truth. The media was pretty complacent in the runup to the war.

There you go again, ignoring the reality and facts so that you can trump up the notion that the only reason Bush’s poll ratings dropped from all time highs was not do to the efforts of a Liberal media and Democrats who spent every waking moment denigrating the war and the efforts the Bush Administration made to keep Americans safe.

You can’t help yourself can you?


Support liberals? Which part of me saying there should be an investigation of ACORN do you not get? They should be investigated but until that comes I see this for what it is. A filmmaker who has an announced agenda and that is showing certain organizations are bad. You seem to think everyone opposite of your brand of crazy must be a liberal. That may be true though as you seem to slant far to the right.

Oh my, you cannot even form a complete sentence to support your warped assertions; A filmmaker who has an announced agenda and that is showing certain organizations are bad.
It is very hard to take anything you say seriously as they are so filled with inept sentences and lies and distortions of what other say. But I am bored right now and enjoy watching you attempt to have a coherent thought.

The funds from the government are being pulled. Problem being solved. Ending an organization that helps many poor people will create a hole. Every organization has their fill of bad apples. Now do you think we should break up blackwater when some of their employees have murdered people?

Another liberal rant in a vacuum of any reality or facts; what part of ending federal funding is going to end ACORN? I know you think that just saying things are so makes them so, but many, including myself rely on facts and sources to support our claims.

Do you have anything that suggests that Acorn is now going to end because the taxpayers are no longer going to fund their partisan political agenda?

Now do you think we should break up blackwater when some of their employees have murdered people?

This is what I call the circle of futility; this is where, usually a Liberal, makes a farcical statement that cannot be supported by the facts and then when called on them, jumps to the next farcical argument eventually circling back to the original farcical argument.

You just cannot help yourself can you?

"liberal blinders" "on a rant don't mind me" This is all I see from you continued rants and accussing people of being "liberals"

Another lie and distortion; you just cannot help yourself can you? So whose policies do you support and whom did you vote for in the last election? Oh yes, you support a Liberal Democrat as President and his Liberal Socialist agenda yet you want to hide that by claiming you are not a Liberal? You have got to be kidding me!

Why are you so embarrassed about being a Liberal? You should embrace it as your desperate attempts to support them using lies and distortions all but label you clearly as being an uninformed Liberal who wears your emotions on your sleeves and have no need for facts or honesty.


Nothing derailing about it pointing out the hypocrisy you accuse others of

It absolutely is because while you desperately attempt to argue I am a hypocrite you lie and distort what I have posted and fabricate off the topic arguments that have not been made. You are absolutely a major troll and derailing any attempt at honest debate.

Not false you're railing on about Acorn which hasn't been investigated while calling Devaney a partisan hack for investigating and finding violations within the department of interior.

As someone famous once said; “there you go again.” You just can’t help yourself; lying is a state of mind with you.

Here, let’s try helping you understand what a liar you really are; please post where I made this claim: “while calling Devaney a partisan hack.”

Take your time.

:doh
 
Nothing more than an outright lie; you just cannot seem to help yourself, but it is to be expected from someone who lacks integrity and cannot form a coherent thought or argument to support your distorted political points of view.




Nothing more than another lie; you can’t even be honest for something as simple as this.




There you go again, ignoring the reality and facts so that you can trump up the notion that the only reason Bush’s poll ratings dropped from all time highs was not do to the efforts of a Liberal media and Democrats who spent every waking moment denigrating the war and the efforts the Bush Administration made to keep Americans safe.

You can’t help yourself can you?




Oh my, you cannot even form a complete sentence to support your warped assertions; A filmmaker who has an announced agenda and that is showing certain organizations are bad.
It is very hard to take anything you say seriously as they are so filled with inept sentences and lies and distortions of what other say. But I am bored right now and enjoy watching you attempt to have a coherent thought.



Another liberal rant in a vacuum of any reality or facts; what part of ending federal funding is going to end ACORN? I know you think that just saying things are so makes them so, but many, including myself rely on facts and sources to support our claims.

Do you have anything that suggests that Acorn is now going to end because the taxpayers are no longer going to fund their partisan political agenda?



This is what I call the circle of futility; this is where, usually a Liberal, makes a farcical statement that cannot be supported by the facts and then when called on them, jumps to the next farcical argument eventually circling back to the original farcical argument.

You just cannot help yourself can you?



Another lie and distortion; you just cannot help yourself can you? So whose policies do you support and whom did you vote for in the last election? Oh yes, you support a Liberal Democrat as President and his Liberal Socialist agenda yet you want to hide that by claiming you are not a Liberal? You have got to be kidding me!

Why are you so embarrassed about being a Liberal? You should embrace it as your desperate attempts to support them using lies and distortions all but label you clearly as being an uninformed Liberal who wears your emotions on your sleeves and have no need for facts or honesty.




It absolutely is because while you desperately attempt to argue I am a hypocrite you lie and distort what I have posted and fabricate off the topic arguments that have not been made. You are absolutely a major troll and derailing any attempt at honest debate.



As someone famous once said; “there you go again.” You just can’t help yourself; lying is a state of mind with you.

Here, let’s try helping you understand what a liar you really are; please post where I made this claim: “while calling Devaney a partisan hack.”

Take your time.

:doh

No need to take my time I'll just summarize your response:

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You can't even get your own positions correct Truth. You dismissed the investigation by devaney then claim that Acorn should be dismantled here. You're dishonest and your post stinks of partisan hackery. I'm for an investigation of ACORN so again trying to claim I'm a liberal makes you sound like you're shooting blanks again. Carry on ranting though its kind of funny to watch you ramble.
 
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You can't even get your own positions correct Truth.

This reeks of profound irony. Your inability to comprehend what is posted won’t permit you to have a coherent honest debate.

You dismissed the investigation by devaney

You would be wrong which appears to be a permanent state with you; I dismissed the conclusions of the report. I am hardly surprised that you are incapable of distinguishing the difference and read only what your Liberal hyper partisan blinders allow you to read.

...then claim that Acorn should be dismantled here.

This is another out and out lie. Post where any of my arguments suggest Acorn should be dismantled.

You can't help yourself; it is truly stunning and ironic.

You're dishonest and your post stinks of partisan hackery.

This comment is beyond the pale for what defines irony considering you started this post with an outright lie; how ironic when one sees this coming from someone who lies, distorts and cannot even comprehend what is being argued because of what appears to be hyper partisan liberal hackery.

I'm for an investigation of ACORN so again trying to claim I'm a liberal makes you sound like you're shooting blanks again.

Good lord, there aren't the words to describe the level of denial it takes for you to even make such farcical and delusional statements.

By the way, how old are you anyway?
 
This reeks of profound irony. Your inability to comprehend what is posted won’t permit you to have a coherent honest debate.

I comprehend it perfectly you said Devaney had a political agenda. He didn't.

You would be wrong which appears to be a permanent state with you; I dismissed the conclusions of the report. I am hardly surprised that you are incapable of distinguishing the difference and read only what your Liberal hyper partisan blinders allow you to read.

How many different ways can you say the same thing? You need to relax, take a chill pill because you're coming off as overly emotional. "liberal hyper partisan blinders" same old same old. You need to get a new response generator there's only so many times you can repeat the same phrases before you look utterly ridiculous "truth"

This is another out and out lie. Post where any of my arguments suggest Acorn should be dismantled.

You can't help yourself; it is truly stunning and ironic.



This comment is beyond the pale for what defines irony considering you started this post with an outright lie; how ironic when one sees this coming from someone who lies, distorts and cannot even comprehend what is being argued because of what appears to be hyper partisan liberal hackery.

"Hyper partisan liberal hackery" yeah because anyone who disagrees with you must be a partisan liberal hack. Now you're just being silly.

Good lord, there aren't the words to describe the level of denial it takes for you to even make such farcical and delusional statements.

By the way, how old are you anyway?

You really can't get off the personal attacks can you? I've seen you rant through 6 straight posts to me saying the same repeated phrases and the same partisan crap. Don't you get it by now I don't play your partisan games Truth. You make an inaccurate statement I'll call you out on it. You railed against acorn and dismissed Devaney's report as being "bile" a waste of money, etc.
 
You really can't get off the personal attacks can you?

Asking you your age is now considered a personal attack? you truly are a caricature of misinformation aren't you?

I am truly curious how old you are. Because it would say a lot about your lack of integrity, lying and distorting and inability to have a coherent debate and I would know whether or not you are even worth dealing with anymore.

I've seen you rant through 6 straight posts to me saying the same repeated phrases and the same partisan crap.

That is because you are incapable of having a civil honest debate; if you were, you wouldn't parse what is being said and lie about it.

Don't you get it by now I don't play your partisan games Truth.

Based on your efforts to take comments out of context and then lie about them, I am doubtful you could even recognize the what truth and honesty is.

If anything; you are engaging in this thread like a hyper partisan hack rather than someone interested in the truth, then you project this incredible lack of civility onto others.

You make an inaccurate statement I'll call you out on it.

I am still waiting for you to even comprehend what my statements were let alone your ability to counter them with anything factual or credible.

Instead I am witness to a barragre of personal insults about these perceived insults and partisan hackery using lies and distortions; it is stunning to say the least.

You railed against acorn

You still can't get it right; I railed about the fact that the Government gave millions to an organization with an OBVIOUS partisan political agenda. You have yet to get the argument right or debate with anything that could be considered partially correct of coherent.

and dismissed Devaney's report as being "bile" a waste of money, etc.

Another lie; again it is incredible that you insert words that fit your narrow hyper partisan view in an effort to support your farcical conclusions.

Once more, my argument had NOTHING to do with the report. It was the hysterical highly emotional rhetorical conclusions contained in the report contrary to your continued desperate efforts to lie and distort what I said.

Your insulting lies and continued baiting and trolling really needs to cease now.
 
Your behavior is in serious need of modification, TB. You keep accusing others of doing exactly what you are guilty of doing. Why don't you start by knocking off the cheap shots.
 
Asking you your age is now considered a personal attack? you truly are a caricature of misinformation aren't you?

I am truly curious how old you are. Because it would say a lot about your lack of integrity, lying and distorting and inability to have a coherent debate and I would know whether or not you are even worth dealing with anymore.



That is because you are incapable of having a civil honest debate; if you were, you wouldn't parse what is being said and lie about it.



Based on your efforts to take comments out of context and then lie about them, I am doubtful you could even recognize the what truth and honesty is.

If anything; you are engaging in this thread like a hyper partisan hack rather than someone interested in the truth, then you project this incredible lack of civility onto others.



I am still waiting for you to even comprehend what my statements were let alone your ability to counter them with anything factual or credible.

Instead I am witness to a barragre of personal insults about these perceived insults and partisan hackery using lies and distortions; it is stunning to say the least.



You still can't get it right; I railed about the fact that the Government gave millions to an organization with an OBVIOUS partisan political agenda. You have yet to get the argument right or debate with anything that could be considered partially correct of coherent.



Another lie; again it is incredible that you insert words that fit your narrow hyper partisan view in an effort to support your farcical conclusions.

Once more, my argument had NOTHING to do with the report. It was the hysterical highly emotional rhetorical conclusions contained in the report contrary to your continued desperate efforts to lie and distort what I said.

Your insulting lies and continued baiting and trolling really needs to cease now.

Its funny everything you keep ranting about me doing you've just done yourself. There were no hysterical highly emotional rhetorical conclusions in the report. Again everything to you is highly emotional yet you're the only one being emotional here.

The only thing stunning is how you need to get over yourself and stop making everything about you. You have refused to have an honest debate and instead call everyone a liar, liberal, partisan, emotional, etc. Chill out you're becoming a parody of yourself
 
Your behavior is in serious need of modification, TB. You keep accusing others of doing exactly what you are guilty of doing. Why don't you start by knocking off the cheap shots.

Again you would be wrong; I am guilty of nothing more than pointing out the obvious efforts to lie and distort by a forum member who appears desperate to make this an issue about me and my partisan views when nothing partisan has been made.

In addition, it is not a cheap shot to call someone correctly a liar when that is what they are doing and have proved that the person is indeed lying by his own admission and words.

I am curious about your selective outrage and why you haven't asked PogueMoran to stop his attempts at offtopic lies and distortions that have nothing to do with the thread topic; why is that?
 
Originally Posted by CriticalThought
Here is a start...

5 Charged as Members of Prostitution Ring - The New York Times

Let the crackdown of the evil Burger King begin!

Did any of you people read that article? The pimps met with the sting operators IN a Burger King... nothing is said about the perps working for BK, sheesh!!!

The five were arrested on Friday night in a Burger King at 79-01 Queens Boulevard in Woodside after Mr. Pun offered to sell sexual services provided by the girls to an undercover detective from the Manhattan South public morals division.

How much money does Burger King get from the Government to run their operations? None, so that is an internal corporate and police matter which I am sure will be prosecuted and dealt with by the corporation and police.

Acorn on the other hand derives a significant amount of money from the American taxpayer to operate what amounts to a PARTISAN political organization. Everyone should be OUTRAGED by this.

This would be tantamount to the Government sending millions to the Christian Broadcasting Network; imagine the liberal outrage if that were the case.

At least $53 million in federal funds have gone to ACORN activists since 1994, and the controversial group could get up to $8.5 billion more tax dollars despite being under investigation for voter registration fraud in a dozen states.

ACORN got $53 million in federal funds since 94, now eligible for up to $8 billion more | Washington Examiner

It's only the Democrats defending Acorn.... and that will get a lot of mileage come next election.
 
Again you would be wrong; I am guilty of nothing more than pointing out the obvious efforts to lie and distort by a forum member who appears desperate to make this an issue about me and my partisan views when nothing partisan has been made.

In addition, it is not a cheap shot to call someone correctly a liar when that is what they are doing and have proved that the person is indeed lying by his own admission and words.

I am curious about your selective outrage and why you haven't asked PogueMoran to stop his attempts at offtopic lies and distortions that have nothing to do with the thread topic; why is that?

While you question his selective outrage I questioned yours. You were dismissive of the report the inspector general filed claiming he had a political agenda, calling his conclusions bile. I called you out on it because you were bitching about Acorn yet seemed very dismissive saying no crimes took place over at the department of the interior.
 
TD - I don't see him projecting onto you his own behavior, the way you are projecting your own bad behavior onto him. You are the one who is making yourself the issue with your obnoxious behavior, and I'm starting to suspect that that's exactly what you want.
 
The townhall screamers have been shut down and this is the rights next distraction topic..so they don't have to talk about real health care issues.

Exactly. ACORN average 3.5 Million per year in Federal funding.

Literally, ten of Billions (for our right wing friends there are 10,000 Million in 10 Billion) are unaccounted for by military contractors and the GOP is opposing Federal investigations into where the money went.

It goes back time and time again to the same root cause.

Ignorant white, poor and middle class voters who are not sophisticated enough to discern what issues are important to their livelyhoods and what issues are red herrings designed to distract them.

Here is a wonderful article on how absurd this all is........http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/09/17/acorn_hysteria/index.html
 
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It's only the Democrats defending Acorn.... and that will get a lot of mileage come next election.

Democrats have been flaming law abiding citizens how carry a gun and speak out against the President's lies, all while defending child prostitution and promoting taxation without representation to "solve" a problem which has been proven not to exist.

Elections have consequences.
 
Originally Posted by Ethereal
Good question.

What, do you suppose, would be the left's reaction if five separate GOP offices were found offering to facilitate a child prostitution ring? I'm sure they would garner as much credulity as you lefties have been able to muster for ACORN...

I bet it would be the same stupid media fiasco.

Do you mean the media would just ignore it?... I'm going to be able to sell that bridge..

Just $29.95 plus shipping and handling.
 
Democrats have been flaming law abiding citizens how carry a gun and speak out against the President's lies, all while defending child prostitution and promoting taxation without representation to "solve" a problem which has been proven not to exist.

Elections have consequences.

About carrying guns to town hall meetings, there's a time and a place for everything. What exactly is the point of bringing a gun especially when one guy brought one within proximity to where the president was going to be. That same guy goes to the church of the pastor who wishes death on Obama. That same guy with the gun told people he wanted Obama dead sooner rather than later. One guy was arrested carrying a knife to the president's town hall meeting and had a loaded gun in his truck. Defending child prostitution? Sounds like the ACORN employee was trying to find ways for the "ring" to hide their activities. Didn't seem like the employee was supporting child prostitution no more than your accountant giving you advice of where to hide your money offshore. Both cases are illegal and the person doing it should get in trouble but there's more focus on one over the other. Also taxation without representation? I didn't know congress was disolved.
 
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I have a hypothetical question for all the "conservatives" on this thread.

If you had to pick one option that would occur what would it be?

A. ACORN is fully investigated. Anyone determined to have committed crimes is brought to justice. Some of the Federal Government's money (less than 5 Million at most) is recovered.

B. Military Contractors are fully investigated. Anyone determined to have committed crimes is brought to justice. Some of the Federal Government's money (32 Billion spent on Blackwater alone) is recovered.
 
I have a hypothetical question for all the "conservatives" on this thread.

If you had to pick one option that would occur what would it be?

A. ACORN is fully investigated. Anyone determined to have committed crimes is brought to justice. Some of the Federal Government's money (less than 5 Million at most) is recovered.

B. Military Contractors are fully investigated. Anyone determined to have committed crimes is brought to justice. Some of the Federal Government's money (32 Billion spent on Blackwater alone) is recovered.

Well, I'm definitely on the liberal side of the fence, and I have to say, I'd like to see both happen. I doubt that the results will shut up any of the loudmouths on either side of the fence, though.
 
Well, I'm definitely on the liberal side of the fence, and I have to say, I'd like to see both happen. I doubt that the results will shut up any of the loudmouths on either side of the fence, though.

Oh I'm fine with both as well. But it is the GOP in Congress that opposes option B.

Do you see any threads from these "fiscal Conservatives" outraged about this?

I don't. What they are doing is just spreading whatever daily outrage Beck and Hannity fed them.

They have no idea about what to do help themselves other than repeat what they are told.
 
Democrats have been flaming law abiding citizens how carry a gun and speak out against the President's lies, all while defending child prostitution and promoting taxation without representation to "solve" a problem which has been proven not to exist.

Elections have consequences.

Elections do have consequences.... and the consequence of the last election could be the best thing that has happened to this country for a long time, the end of the liberal movement.... I think the vast majority of the people of this country now have their eyes wide open.
 
About carrying guns to town hall meetings, there's a time and a place for everything. What exactly is the point of bringing a gun especially when one guy brought one within proximity to where the president was going to be. That same guy goes to the church of the pastor who wishes death on Obama. That same guy with the gun told people he wanted Obama dead sooner rather than later. One guy was arrested carrying a knife to the president's town hall meeting and had a loaded gun in his truck. Defending child prostitution? Sounds like the ACORN employee was trying to find ways for the "ring" to hide their activities. Didn't seem like the employee was supporting child prostitution no more than your accountant giving you advice of where to hide your money offshore. Both cases are illegal and the person doing it should get in trouble but there's more focus on one over the other. Also taxation without representation? I didn't know congress was disolved.

Most of this country has a law called "open carry". This means you can openly (not concealed) carry a gun anywhere you want to... it's perfectly legal.

For example, Oregon is an open carry state... you can pack a gun on your hip or over your shoulder almost anywhere in the State.

Here is a site that has the laws for each state: Concealed Firearm Permit Information By State
 
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I have a hypothetical question for all the "conservatives" on this thread.

If you had to pick one option that would occur what would it be?

A. ACORN is fully investigated. Anyone determined to have committed crimes is brought to justice. Some of the Federal Government's money (less than 5 Million at most) is recovered.

B. Military Contractors are fully investigated. Anyone determined to have committed crimes is brought to justice. Some of the Federal Government's money (32 Billion spent on Blackwater alone) is recovered.

Both......
 
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