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Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

The topic relates to Jimmy Carter's statement about his concerns, & no proof of Wilson's intent is needed or really even on topic, nor is any proof required that Carter is either right or wrong.
Oh so you can just say it was racist and it is? That is the most stupid thing I've every heard.
 
Tea bagger refers to the Tea Party participants.

As some who adores several incredible and wonderful women and their families who attended Tea Party Events (one oganized one in her state), I absolutely reject this statement, and I am thoroughly offended by it.

One of my TP friends is a lovely woman who volunteers her free time helping hospice patients. She has her elderly father and grandmother living with her so she can take care of them. Last year, she kept picking up gross viruses, and I suggested she take time away from hospice because there was probably a lot of germs there. She said no way. There were patients there who never got visitors. My friend would not consider abandoning them if only for a short while. When someone is in need, she's the first one to offer help. I think if you met her without knowing her political beliefs, you would just love her. She's the real deal.

She went to the TP march in DC and brought her dad. She does not like where the country is headed, and for the first time in her life, she's protesting. She said the message to cut it out is for Dem and Repub leaders.

Calling a woman like that a teabagger is like calling a lesbian the d word. It's an offensive slam routed in ignorance and hatred. You (not just you Wind. I mean this collectively) should learn more about what the overwhelming majority of these people are taking a stand for. Dismissing them this way is not only childish, it's foolhardy. They will make a difference. It may be wise to learn eactly what it is they stand for.
 
The topic relates to Jimmy Carter's statement about his concerns, & no proof of Wilson's intent is needed or really even on topic, nor is any proof required that Carter is either right or wrong.
BTW, you need change that badge to liberal, cause you're no more moderate than I am.
 
The topic relates to Jimmy Carter's statement about his concerns, & no proof of Wilson's intent is needed or really even on topic, nor is any proof required that Carter is either right or wrong.

So if I say your posts on DP suggest that you have pedophilic tendancies, I don't need proof?
 
Do you think he gave thought to the fact that he was about to embarrass the president?
I'm sure he gave thought to it's effect on Obama but I wouldn't characterize it as "Embarrassing" him. (Obama)

I believe that Carter felt it was something he needed to say for the purpose of bringing racism out as a topic of discussion.....yes.
I would characterize its effect on Obama as a "Distraction" rather than an "embarrassment" though.
Obama wants to talk about HC & Afghanistan & knows little good can come from HIS taking on race relations right now.
Others can do that but Obama has bigger fish to fry, imo.



Do you think Obama appreciated his comments right before a tv talk show spree?

No .......for the reasons I stated above.
(but I personally feel that bringing race out into the open is a GOOD thing for this country to be discussing right now.



Here's the way I perceive the majority of anti-Obama movements in this country, including the HC debate:



Objective....Strategy.....Tactics


1. Objective:
A.I think the GOP's (& far right's) objective is to discredit the Obama Admin. for the purpose of gaining back political power in this country.
B. I think the HC Industry's objective is to kill HC reform entirely..or at least dilute it enough to protect their corporate profits



2. Strategy:
I think both the GOP & the Insurance industry is hoping to achieve their objective through a strategy of undermining everything that Obams tries to do.

3. Tactics:
I think the tactics being used to affect their startegy are:
Fear, Misinformation, Outright Lies, & appeal to racial fears.....or racism.

Thus, imo..... Former President Carter was addressing the tactic of racism &, if he feels that it is the basic motive of Wilson's outburst, I disgree. It was Greed first. (whether greed or racism, Wilson's outburst was reprehensible & he deserves to lose his seat next election)
 
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So basically you have nothing but a blog to prove that Wilson saying "You lie!" was racist. You're joking, right?

I don't have to prove that Wilson is a racist. That's not my point. My point is he planned to be disruptive. My point is Carter spoke to a larger pattern of disrespect in the political landscape that has racial implications.

That he happens to have been Strom Thurman's prodigy and the guy who wants to fly the Confederate flag on the state capitol is mere circumstance.

The actions of him taking his apology back and continuing to call Obama a liar over and over in talk shows proves his apology is disingenuous at least.
 
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I don't have to prove that Wilson is a racist. That's not my point. My point is he planned to be disruptive. My point is Carter spoke to a larger pattern of disrespect in the political landscape that has racial implications.

That he happens to have been Strom Thurman's prodigy and the guy who wants to fly the Confederate flag on the state capitol is mere circumstance.

The actions of him taking his apology back and continuing to call Obama a liar over and over in talk shows proves his apology is disingenuous at least.
No, you point is he's racist, don't think I'm letting you off easy. You're not changing the subject as long as I'm in this thread. You're going to prove to me that saying "You lie!" is racist, and so is every other liberal that comes in here and shows his face. We're going to end this bull****, and you libs are either going to shutup or prove those words are racist. So trying as you may, I'm going to jerk you back to that point by the collar of your shirt every single time you try to veer off.
 
No, you point is he's racist, don't think I'm letting you off easy. You're not changing the subject as long as I'm in this thread. You're going to prove to me that saying "You lie!" is racist, and so is every other liberal that comes in here and shows his face. We're going to end this bull****, and you libs are either going to shutup or prove those words are racist. So trying as you may, I'm going to jerk you back to that point by the collar of your shirt every single time you try to veer off.

You rant is bordering on attempting to derail this thread ......which relates to former President Carter's comments & requires no proof that his comments were provable or not. I suggest your anger towards a fellow member is uncalled for & does not help your side in this debate!
I further suggest that windovervocalcords not respond to your outbursts.
Perhaps this topic is to emotional for you to continue to post to.
 
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No, you point is he's racist, don't think I'm letting you off easy. You're not changing the subject as long as I'm in this thread. You're going to prove to me that saying "You lie!" is racist, and so is every other liberal that comes in here and shows his face. We're going to end this bull****, and you libs are either going to shutup or prove those words are racist. So trying as you may, I'm going to jerk you back to that point by the collar of your shirt every single time you try to veer off.

Nope. Carter's comments were in a broader context. Read the entirety of what he said. He commented on scatological language and a number of other phenomena in a more widespread atmosphere of disrespect.

I have already conceded that the phrase 'you lie' is not racist. Joe Wilson is however.

He is Strom Thurman's prodigy and a good ol boy who wants to fly the Confederate flag over the state capitol.

This was planned disruption and disrespect and Wilson's 'apology' is hollow BS.
 
Nope. Carter's comments were in a broader context. Read the entirety of what he said. He commented on scatological language and a number of other phenomena in a more widespread atmosphere of disrespect.

I have already conceded that the phrase 'you lie' is not racist. Joe Wilson is however.

He is Strom Thurman's prodigy and a good ol boy who wants to fly the Confederate flag over the state capitol.

This was planned disruption and disrespect and Wilson's 'apology' is hollow BS.

Oops!!...I was to late!:lol:
 
Nope. Carter's comments were in a broader context. Read the entirety of what he said. He commented on scatological language and a number of other phenomena in a more widespread atmosphere of disrespect.

I have already conceded that the phrase 'you lie' is not racist. Joe Wilson is however.

He is Strom Thurman's prodigy and a good ol boy who wants to fly the Confederate flag over the state capitol.

This was planned disruption and disrespect and Wilson's 'apology' is hollow BS.
Then the thead can be closed. Carter seems to know about about scat alright, the communist lover.
 
Then the thead can be closed. Carter seems to know about about scat alright, the communist lover.

Joe Wilson is a disrespectful partisan hack now playing victim. Wilson has a financial interest in opposing health care reform, and he will fight it with every privileged bone in his body.
 
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Keep it civil, people.
 
So if I say your posts on DP suggest that you have pedophilic tendancies, I don't need proof?

I tried this example back on page 57, but I think you have to personally humiliate each democrat before they will get the lesson . . . .

Pure HorseHockey

I know what YOU think, and YOU think little girls are fun to fondle.
 
The topic relates to Jimmy Carter's statement about his concerns, & no proof of Wilson's intent is needed or really even on topic, nor is any proof required that Carter is either right or wrong.


No, chief.

This is the topic:

"Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst to President Barack Obama during a speech to Congress last week was an act 'based on racism' and rooted in fears of a black president."

"'I think it's based on racism,' Carter said in response to an audience question at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. 'There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.'"

I am failing to see how Wilson's outburst was in any way a racist one. Every comment made against an ethnic minority is not racist, there should be real reason to believe it is before making the accusation. Otherwise, it just makes the issue worse by adding more situations it can used in, even though there is no justification to do so.

What exactly was racist about it? Are people going to get tired of being accused of racism with it eventually backfiring on people like Carter who use it to explain something it is not related to?

Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism' - Yahoo! News

According to the OP, it's about whether Carter was right or not. So yes, Carter's statement DOES require proof.

You fail. Again.
 
No, chief.

This is the topic:



According to the OP, it's about whether Carter was right or not. So yes, Carter's statement DOES require proof.

You fail. Again.

The OP omitted Carter's comment in its entirety and thus misses the important context of his general statement.
 
No, chief.

This is the topic:



According to the OP, it's about whether Carter was right or not. So yes, Carter's statement DOES require proof.

You fail. Again.

Sorry chief.......No one's opinion requires proof.
Prove which tastes better.....Chocolate or Vanilla ice cream.
 
Sorry chief.......No one's opinion requires proof.
Prove which tastes better.....Chocolate or Vanilla ice cream.

On the one hand, chocolate tastes better, and on the other hand vanilla tastes better to some people.

Mocha is the best of all worlds.
 
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