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Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

You want to start with the protectionist tariffs (namely the Tariff of Abominations) and how the north was stifling trade of raw goods from the south while simultaneously forcing the purchase of higher priced manufactured goods from the north?

Or how about Lincoln's response to the first Secession being simply "What will become of my tariff?"

I mean, where do you want to start...I'll let you pick since you seem to be an authority on the issue. :lol:

Yeap. Of course.

Nothing to see here folks.

It's not the fact that the south was forcing people to work against their will.

It's not that entire black families and the children they had were owned by a slave master.

Its not the fact that slaves were thrown overboard into the cold waters of the ocean if they were sick.

Its not the fact that they were murdered as an entire people.

It's not the fact that slave owners were allowed to buy, trade, and sell people like they were cattle.

It was about tariffs!

Goddamn those tariffs!
 
Good for you!

I must say I am enjoying the freedom from the usual childish attacks today...& yes....I got the memo.:lol:


Whats hilarious is that I have a poster on my right hand acting like he is a FOX news reporter, coming at me with loaded, biased questions and then wondering why I won't answer them.

And on my left hand, I have a poster who thinks that slavery as an institution was ok, and that the South was actually "the victim" of Northern aggression.

Too freakin funny.
 
Yeap. Of course.

Nothing to see here folks.

It's not the fact that the south was forcing people to work against their will.

It's not that entire black families and the children they had were owned by a slave master.

Its not the fact that slaves were thrown overboard into the cold waters of the ocean if they were sick.

Its not the fact that they were murdered as an entire people.

It's not the fact that slave owners were allowed to buy, trade, and sell people like they were cattle.

It was about tariffs!

Goddamn those tariffs!

So I take it you still don't want to have a discussion and are abandoning all intelligent conversation in favor or hysterically caterwauling. I imagined it would go down like this.
 
Whats hilarious is that I have a poster on my right hand acting like he is a FOX news reporter, coming at me with loaded, biased questions and then wondering why I won't answer them.

And on my left hand, I have a poster who thinks that slavery as an institution was ok, and that the South was actually "the victim" of Northern aggression.
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Who said "slavery was OK"?

Why should anyone take you at ALL seriously if that's the level of your cognitive processes?
 
I think it has to be equally applied to either side who claim absolute knowledge of his intent.......but taking all things into account....... I'd say ......Protect my bride paying HC industry owners & a good dose of racism would be my favorites for his motives.;)

Of course, because no one who opposes the liberal agenda can have pure motives. Only liberals are pure of heart and care about the future of this nation. Its impossible to have an honest disagreement with the self evident truths of liberalism and big government so all opposition must either be paid for by evil corporations or be movitaved by racism. :roll:

You're so full of yourself, it's comical.
 
Whats hilarious is that I have a poster on my right hand acting like he is a FOX news reporter, coming at me with loaded question and then wondering why I won't answer them.

Sorry Charlie. My question is not loaded, and I do not wonder at ALL why you run away from it. You run away from it because it is real racism, with real evidence, from YOUR side of the political fence.

Watch kids, The Limt is about to make another bold break for it . . .

Obama's racist preachers. Obama's racist Green Jobs Czar. Obama's racist Supreme Court appointee.

Thats where the racism claims WITH EVIDENCE are, and that is what I posted.
 
And on my left hand, I have a poster who thinks that slavery as an institution was ok, and that the South was actually "the victim" of Northern aggression.

You sir, are a liar of the lowest order. Never once have I defended slavery. Please show me where I defended slavery or retract your blatant lies.
 
Soylent Tariff is on PEOPLE !!
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So I take it you still don't want to have a discussion and are abandoning all intelligent conversation in favor or hysterically caterwauling. I imagined it would go down like this.

I cannot have a discussion with someone who does not think the bondage and murder of an entire people was second to tariffs and "states rights."

You have made yourself more than clear. You think the Southern States had a right to to enslave people, ie your "States Rights" arguments.

You're right, I don't want to have an in-depth discussion with you.

Because it would be a monumental waste of time
 
Since the only way of actually knowing what Wilson's motive was would be to be able to read his mind.....Are you claiming that ability?
Carter and many of the members of this forum are claiming to have that ability.
 
Of course, because no one who opposes the liberal agenda can have pure motives. Only liberals are pure of heart and care about the future of this nation. Its impossible to have an honest disagreement with the self evident truths of liberalism and big government so all opposition must either be paid for by evil corporations or be movitaved by racism. :roll:

You're so full of yourself, it's comical.

Hey....Didn't you get the memo?? (You're supposed to ignore my arguments since they make to much sense!!):lol:

Anyway...Of course it's possible to be against any agenda & have pure motives....Our side does it all the time!;)

Problem here is that the HC/Insurance Industry has anything but pure motives in funding massive opposition to HC reform. Their motive is simple, ugly GREED & their trying to achieve their goal by using any tactic they can think of/pay for.

Fear.....Misinformation...Outright Lies......& yes...even racism.
But make no mistake....the basic motive is nothing but simple GREED.

Love...... not hate is what's behind most opposition to HC reform.....Love of MONEY!
 
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Posted irresponsibly by Jallman

That's because it's a true and correct defense. (Speaking of slavery and the civil war)

The flag represents rebellion against unfair economic aggression (The south is the victim) by the northern states, the pride the south (The pride in defending slavery as an institution) has... and the bravery of the men who died trying to protect the sovereignty of the states (the bravery of the men protecting the right to deny freedom to slaves) ...

Those are your words.

They are anything but brave, and they shouldn't have any pride for their defense of the indefensible.
 
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Whats hilarious is that I have a poster on my right hand acting like he is a FOX news reporter, coming at me with loaded, biased questions and then wondering why I won't answer them.

And on my left hand, I have a poster who thinks that slavery as an institution was ok, and that the South was actually "the victim" of Northern aggression.

Too freakin funny.

No what is truly hilarious is your desperate attempts to avoid any honest intellectual debate with your nonsensical theatrics and uninformed absolutely laughable opinions that you substitute for facts. It requires one to slip into hip waders because your BS gets so deep.

This is why I have to laugh when forum members actually attempt to engage you in debate. It always amounts to nothing more than a wander in the circle of futility where you spew an uninformed claim, then when called on it jump to the next uninformed claim only to circle back to the original uninformed claim starting the circle over again.

I guess some on this forum are so bored they actually like illustrating your complete lack of intellectual capacity and make sport of wallowing in the circle of futility with you.

With you, there truly is no "LIMIT" to your nonsense.
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yes...even racism.

Sorry Charlie. The Racism is on the other side of the fence. . .

Obama's racist preachers. Obama's racist Green Jobs Czar. Obama's racist Supreme Court appointee.

Thats where the racism claims WITH EVIDENCE are, and that is what I posted.
 
No what is truly hilarious is your desperate attempts to avoid any honest intellectual debate with your nonsensical theatrics and uninformed absolutely laughable opinions that you substitute for facts. It requires one to slip into hip waders because your BS gets so deep.

This is why I have to laugh when forum members actually attempt to engage you in debate. It always amounts to nothing more than a wander in the circle of futility where you spew an uninformed claim, then when called on it jump to the next uninformed claim only to circle back to the original uninformed claim starting the circle over again.

I guess some on this forum are so bored they actually like illustrating your complete lack of intellectual capacity and make sport of wallowing in the circle of futility with you.

With you, there truly is no "LIMIT" to your nonsense.
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Hey look jallman!

Yet another poster comes out of the woodshed to come to your rescue! You're a real life babe of the woods.

Maybe he can remind all of us how noble, proud and victimized the Southern slavery culture was!
 
Maybe we're not "saving" Jallman from anything.

Perhaps we are attending his birthday party and you are the Pinata.
 
Hey....Didn't you get the memo?? (You're supposed to ignore my arguments since they make to much sense!!):lol:

Anyway...Of course it's possible to be against any agenda & have pure motives....Our side does it all the time!;)

Problem here is that the HC/Insurance Industry has anything but pure motives in funding massive opposition to HC reform. Their motive is simple, ugly GREED & their trying to achieve their goal by using any tactic they can think of/pay for.

Fear.....Misinformation...Outright Lies......& yes...even racism.
But make no mistake....the basic motive is nothing but simple GREED.

Love...... not hate is what's behind most opposition to HC reform.....Love of MONEY!

Translation: I'm going to smear my opponents instead of actually debate with them.
 
Anyway...Of course it's possible to be against any agends & have pure motives....Our side does it all the time!;)

Problem here is that the HC/Insurance Industry has anything but pure motives in funding massive opposition to HC reform. Their motive is simple, ugly GREED & their trying to achieve their goal by using any tactic they can think of/pay for.

Fear.....Misinformation...Outright Lies......& yes...even racism.
But make no mistake....the basic motive is nothing but simple GREED.

Love not hate is what's behind most opposition to HC reform.....Love of MONEY!

...because you say so.

I am amused that amassing profits for the benefit of shareholders, beneficiaries and payment of wages and taxes is now an evil thing. :roll:

Have any of you well meaning, but patently uninformed economically challenged Liberals thought about how all those taxes for all your beloved Government welfare programs will get paid for if no one makes any profits anymore? :rofl

Here’s a clue for you and the other well meaning Liberals; you are engaging into nothing more than hyperbolic demagoguery when you attempt to impugn an industry as being evil for the simple fact that you are uninformed about how economies function and work and seek to do this for purely partisan purposes.

Main Entry: hyperbole hI-!pur-bu-(+)lE
Pronunciation: \ hī-ˈpər-bə-(ˌ)lē \
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbolē excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw - More at - devil
Date: 15th century

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15th century extravagant exaggeration (as “mile-high ice-cream cones”)


Main Entry: demagogue !de-mu-+g@g
Pronunciation: \ ˈde-mə-ˌgäg \
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek dēmagōgos, from dēmos people (perhaps akin to Greek daiesthai to divide) + agōgos leading, from agein to lead - More at - tide, agent
Date: 1648
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1. a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power
 
Maybe we're not "saving" Jallman from anything.

Perhaps we are attending his birthday party and you are the Pinata.

Or perhaps you felt you needed to save your friend from his embarrssing defense of the Southen slavery culture.
 
Hey look jallman!

Yet another poster comes out of the woodshed to come to your rescue! You're a real life babe of the woods.

Maybe he can remind all of us how noble, proud and victimized the Southern slavery culture was!

In truth, I was attempting to come to your rescue before you continue to make a complete and utter fool of yourself by pointing out the obvious. Apparently I failed in that endeavor.

By all means, continue on. :rofl
 
Or perhaps you felt you needed to save your friend from his embarrssing defense of the Southen slavery culture.

No, we just think your pathetic attempts at "debate" are worthy of mockery, scorn, and derision. Please, don't stop now...:lol:
 
Problem here is that the HC/Insurance Industry has anything but pure motives in funding massive opposition to HC reform. Their motive is simple, ugly GREED & their trying to achieve their goal by using any tactic they can think of/pay for.

Fear.....Misinformation...Outright Lies......& yes...even racism.
But make no mistake....the basic motive is nothing but simple GREED.

/B]

This battle over healthcare is the stupidest and ugliest episode of dumbass American behavior I've ever seen.

At least the Iraq War had a shred of reason involved, as soon as you swallowed all the outright lies of course.

But this? It's absolutely ****ing brainless, a mean and nasty and fear-ridden brainlessness that's off the charts.

I feel sorry for you guys. I don't see how America can be saved from itself.

Too many wretched, retarded assholes.

My condolences.
 
Who am I smearing??...Joe Wilson??...John Boehner??....Rush Limbaugh??....Insurance Company execs??

So what you are saying is this; it is okay to smear those who do not share my political philosophy because I cannot honestly debate their philosophy with any level of integrity, honesty and intellectually.
 
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