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Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

These absurd charges, aimed at a freely elected POTUS.... sound like jokes but they are all to real &...considering that:

1.We have the first black President in tbhe history of this nation
2. Racism is not dead in this country
3. Gun & ammo sales are extremely high

I would say than anyone who doesn't recognize/admit that we are siting on a powder keg is either fooling themselves or trying to fool us.
Wow. Talk about non-sequitur.
 
That's why there are debate forums!;)
It would be pretty boring if all we ever said to each other was "I agree with you!"

I disagree with your point of view. My view is that, as you say......"Racism is a serious charge and is considered to be one of the most dispicable things a person can be. "......& therefore when a U.S. Congressman rudely shouts at the first black President in this country's history....on the floor of the Congress....when the President is addressing a Joint Session.........To not even consider the possibility that the outburst was racially motivated is wrong. All factors in making this determination should be considered: Mr. Wilson's past remarks, his associations, his voting record...everything.

It is doubtful that a true racist would ever admit such a thing...publicly..... so voters will have to decide for themselves what his motives were & judge him at the polls.
What was really wrong, in my opinion, was Carter opening his big mouth about his opinion, which really has no hard evidence, other that being his opinion. I happen to agree that there's a possibility that this is a part of Mr Wilson's problem, but I don't have any real evidence, do I?

Carter has gotten in the habit of getting on his soapbox and blabbering irresponsible things in his doddering old age. He is quite elderly. I think he does it for attention. He is, in reality, a has-been.
 
Ask that question to the Secret Service. (they are at high alert all the time with Obmaa)

It is undeniable that there is an undercurrent of violence towards President Obama which is being stoked daily by the far right.
Obama is not an American
Obama pals around with terrorists
Obama is a Muslim
Obama is a nazi
Obama is a Communist
Obama is a Socialist
Obama will take your guns away
Obama wants to kill your grandmother
Obama is destroying this nation

These absurd charges, aimed at a freely elected POTUS.... sound like jokes but they are all to real &...considering that:
1.We have the first black President in tbhe history of this nation
2. Racism is not dead in this country
3. Gun & ammo sales are extremely high


I would say than anyone who doesn't recognize/admit that we are siting on a powder keg is either fooling themselves or trying to fool us.




4. Sonic has good tater tots
5. Kanye west like beyonce
6. Right turns on red are illegal in new york
7. Real bagels are hand rolled and boiled first
8. Sierra Nevada is good beer


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4. Sonic has good tater tots
5. Kanye west like beyonce
6. Right turns on red are illegal in new york
7. Real bagels are hand rolled and boiled first
8. Sierra Nevada is good beer


:roll:

I thought you didn't do fast food?:2razz:
 
Of course it's racist, he was critical against Obama and apparently that defines racism now. There's no powder keg. Of course racism isn't dead; it probably never will fully be extinguished. But to basically claim that all criticism against Obama is rooted in some form of racism is just plain stupid.

It's stupid, it's dishonest, it's inflammatory, and it says much more about the accuser than the accused.
 
It's stupid, it's dishonest, it's inflammatory, and it says much more about the accuser than the accused.
Perhaps those making the accusation simply cannot conceive of any other possible source of the criticism?
 
Carter has a point.

Carter has no point.

He says:

1) There is racism in the country. (Duh.)

2) Therefore, yelling "You lie!" at the President must be racially motivated.

It does not follow. It's simply impugning motivation in order to avoid dealing with the actual point. Which I see a great deal of 'round these parts.
 
Perhaps those making the accusation simply cannot conceive of any other possible source of the criticism?

No, I just think "racism" is the easiest deflect they have.
 
Perhaps those making the accusation simply cannot conceive of any other possible source of the criticism?

That is one of the possible things it may say about the accuser, sure.
 
Those who claim they KNOW Wilson's outburst was racially motivated are no more compelling than those who claim they KNOW it was not.
Unless you're a mind reader, no one can KNOW what is going on in another man's mind.
That being said, a reasonable person can have strong suspicions that Wilson's outburst was in fact racially motivated, & I believe that is what former President Carter was saying......He has suspicions..
Very little is know about SC Congressman Joe Wilson at this point, but there is enough evidence out there to convince me that racism MAY well have been his motive.

There is another clue that some of you are missing that could tell the story of Wilson's intentions. How about the fact that OBAMA WAS LYING!!!

"A reasonable person", as you seem to claim to be, should be able to read the appropriate sections of HR3200 (which Obama does support and wishes to "own", regardless of how he cops out of it during speeches) and it becomes apparent to a REAL reasonable person that he, indeed, lies his ass off regularly!
 
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According to the psychological principle of Projection we should certainly consider whether Carter is the racist and is attributing his feelings to Wilson:

Psychological projection (or projection bias) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and/or emotions, which are ascribed to...another person

I know it's not great evidence, but like some of you, I just have a feeling. Carter is a racist. After all, Carter is white, and he's from the South. To think otherwise is to deny that racism exists in this country.:roll:
 
Carter has no point.

He says:

1) There is racism in the country. (Duh.)

2) Therefore, yelling "You lie!" at the President must be racially motivated.

Actually, I think Carter's reasoning was that for a representative to get so heated over a speech, implies something deeper. Carter interpreted that something deeper as racism. I think it has more to do with the widening of the ideological divide and the propaganda perpetrated by the media. Whatever it was, it was an emotional reaction, a clear aversion towards Obama that had less to do with what Obama was saying than the fact it was him saying it.
 
I know it's not great evidence, but like some of you, I just have a feeling. Carter is a racist. After all, Carter is white, and he's from the South. To think otherwise is to deny that racism exists in this country.:roll:
Clearly, if you're white and from the south, racism is part of your psyche.
Denying it only illustrates you havent taken the steps necessary to rid yourself of same.
 
Clearly, if you're white and from the south, racism is part of your psyche.
Denying it only illustrates you havent taken the steps necessary to rid yourself of same.
Racists are easy to pick out of a crowd: they're the ones eating boiled peanuts and sweet potato pie.
 
Actually, I think Carter's reasoning was that for a representative to get so heated over a speech, implies something deeper. Carter interpreted that something deeper as racism.
Because there's OBVIOUSLY nothing else it could be.
:doh

Whatever it was, it was an emotional reaction, a clear aversion towards Obama that had less to do with what Obama was saying than the fact it was him saying it.
Support this.
 
I live deep into the south and the only time I hear the N word is listening to rap music on the radio

Ditto here... BTW, music is usually emanating from nearby vibrating vehicles.
 
Actually, I think Carter's reasoning was that for a representative to get so heated over a speech, implies something deeper. Carter interpreted that something deeper as racism. I think it has more to do with the widening of the ideological divide and the propaganda perpetrated by the media. Whatever it was, it was an emotional reaction, a clear aversion towards Obama that had less to do with what Obama was saying than the fact it was him saying it.

You make a good point there. Nevertheless, it's probably better if Carter kept his mouth shut rather than share his unprovable speculations with the world. Instead he ought to assume a user name at this site and babble on anonymously like the rest of us...:2wave:
 
Whatever it was, it was an emotional reaction, a clear aversion towards Obama that had less to do with what Obama was saying than the fact it was him saying it.

I don't know that there's any actual evidence of it. I, myself, have yelled at Obama on the TV screen for his bombastic arrogance and imperiousness, to say nothing of dishonesty. Had nothing whatsoever to do with Barack Obama personally; I do the same when it comes to, say, Chuck Schumer, Paul Begala, Sean Hannity, and a slew of others.
 
Carter has a point.

How so?

I know it's not great evidence, but like some of you, I just have a feeling. Carter is a racist. After all, Carter is white, and he's from the South. To think otherwise is to deny that racism exists in this country.:roll:

Plus he has that "I'm straining to take a dump" grin that almost always says, "damn dark meat."
 
This is a stupid tack for Democrats to take, anyway. All those people out there who are growing disillusioned with the President for perfectly sane, non-racist reasons are going to rather resent being called "racist" all the time.
 
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