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Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

Devil505 said:
Very few dismiss anyone who disagrees with Obama as racist. I have a few things I disagree with him about too....but....It's also dangerous to not consider racism is the cause of some of the anti-Obama rhetoric since he is our first black President & no one seriously thinks racism is all in the past in this country,
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What exactly is dangerous about it? People throwing around this word 'dangerous' as though some emminent evil will strike. What bull****! Assuming everyone is racist is in the character of the left, they always are the first to bring this up. Call it reflection, call it bull****; either way it's telling.
 
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Carter and Kanye should be buddies.
 
Who cares what that communist-loving Carter says?
 
Psychoclown said:
I look at from a different point of view. Racism is a serious charge and is considered to be one of the most dispicable things a person can be. It should only be raised when the case is clear.
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That's why there are debate forums!;)
It would be pretty boring if all we ever said to each other was "I agree with you!"

I disagree with your point of view. My view is that, as you say......"Racism is a serious charge and is considered to be one of the most dispicable things a person can be. "......& therefore when a U.S. Congressman rudely shouts at the first black President in this country's history....on the floor of the Congress....when the President is addressing a Joint Session.........To not even consider the possibility that the outburst was racially motivated is wrong. All factors in making this determination should be considered: Mr. Wilson's past remarks, his associations, his voting record...everything.

It is doubtful that a true racist would ever admit such a thing...publicly..... so voters will have to decide for themselves what his motives were & judge him at the polls.
 
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Devil505 said:
That's why there are debate forums!;)
It would be pretty boring if all we ever said to each other was "I agree with you!"

I disagree with your point of view. My view is that, as you say......"Racism is a serious charge and is considered to be one of the most dispicable things a person can be. "......& therefore when a U.S. Congressman rudely shouts at the first black President in this country's history....on the floor of the Congress....when the President is addressing a Joint Session.........To not even consider the possibility that the outburst was racially motivated is wrong. All factors in making this determination should be considered: Mr. Wilson's past remarks, his associations, his voting record...everything.

It is doubtful that a true racist would ever admit such a thing...publicly, so voters will have to decide for themselves what his motives were.
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To automatically assume racism was intended, is racist.
 
Devil505 said:
To not even consider the possibility that the outburst was racially motivated is wrong.
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Incorrect.

What matters is if what he said is true.
In this case it is.
Obama does lie.
 
Alex said:
"Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst to President Barack Obama during a speech to Congress last week was an act 'based on racism' and rooted in fears of a black president."

"'I think it's based on racism,' Carter said in response to an audience question at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. 'There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.'"

I am failing to see how Wilson's outburst was in any way a racist one. Every comment made against an ethnic minority is not racist, there should be real reason to believe it is before making the accusation. Otherwise, it just makes the issue worse by adding more situations it can used in, even though there is no justification to do so.

What exactly was racist about it? Are people going to get tired of being accused of racism with it eventually backfiring on people like Carter who use it to explain something it is not related to?

Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism' - Yahoo! News
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here i agree. wilson made an ass of himself, certainly, but who can say if he is a a racist?

although i think carter is correct in one respect, there IS a feeling among many that an african amercian ought not to be president. that can't be denied.
 
the party of van jones is in no position to call anyone else racist
 
van jones proves the existence of racism
 
MyOwnDrum said:
I'm just giving my opinion. Yes, I think intuition based on subtle nuances of expression or tone of voice can tell a lot.

I haven't met the guy, just saw that one clip, but I do suspect that he may very well have some racial problems with Obama. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

Also, the fact that the comment that Obama was making was regarding illegal aliens is another tip off. He obviously also has strong feelings about them, most of whom are Mexican as we all know.
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Having a problem with illegal immigrants getting free healthcare is a totally separate issue from racism. One can exist without the other, and there is no evidence to even suggest that they are related here.
 
American said:
What exactly is dangerous about it? People throwing around this word 'dangerous' as though some emminent evil will strike. What bull****! Assuming everyone is racist is in the character of the left, they always are the first to bring this up. Call it reflection, call it bull****; either way it's telling.
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Ask that question to the Secret Service. (they are at high alert all the time with Obmaa)

It is undeniable that there is an undercurrent of violence towards President Obama which is being stoked daily by the far right.
Obama is not an American
Obama pals around with terrorists
Obama is a Muslim
Obama is a nazi
Obama is a Communist
Obama is a Socialist
Obama will take your guns away
Obama wants to kill your grandmother
Obama is destroying this nation

These absurd charges, aimed at a freely elected POTUS.... sound like jokes but they are all to real &...considering that:
1.We have the first black President in tbhe history of this nation
2. Racism is not dead in this country
3. Gun & ammo sales are extremely high

I would say than anyone who doesn't recognize/admit that we are siting on a powder keg is either fooling themselves or trying to fool us.
 
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American said:
To automatically assume racism was intended, is racist.
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There is a saying "he who smelt it dealt it". Basically the person claiming to smell fart is most likely the one who farted.
 
Of course it's racist, he was critical against Obama and apparently that defines racism now. There's no powder keg. Of course racism isn't dead; it probably never will fully be extinguished. But to basically claim that all criticism against Obama is rooted in some form of racism is just plain stupid.
 
So Carter says people say Obama sucks as POTUS cause he's black.


what was Carter's excuse then? :lol:
 
justabubba said:
President Carter got it right
the reich wing is ginning up anti-Obama support using racist undertones
the bowel movement of the teabaggers has little to do with opposition to health care reform and much to do with opposition to Obama
but when the teabaggers are questioned about specific objections, they come up empty
yep, Jimmy pegged it
it's so obvious, Stevie Wonder could see it
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Another one who resorts to lies to smear his opposition.


I oppose Obama, He sucks. Please show me how I am racist or please put the liberal play book away.
 
MyOwnDrum said:
It's possible the Wilson harbors some racial resentments.

I was recently in S Carolina. A man in a Krispie Kreme was very open with me about his disgust with Obama, and he made some pretty openly racist comments to me, a stranger. I tried shush him because I noticed some Blacks working there, but he didn't care.

I do think there is more overt racism in the South. That conversation would not have occured where I live.
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I have been all over this great nation, I find the racism in the north, to be far more institutionalized. :shrug:
 
earthworm said:
Carter is an honorable gentleman...A far more intelligent and thoughtful man than most posters here, including me.
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Then explain the inanity of his statement...
 
Devil505 said:
No..I didn't see the whole video & if Carter said or implied that ALL anti Obama criticism is racially motivated then he is clearly wrong. I doubt that is what he meant.
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That, of course, is a ridiculous charge. Obama has no more criticism directed at him than any previous president.

I used to like Carter but I think he's really gone off the deep end in recent years. I think he gets a lot of ego strokes from the left for all his off the wall statements and actions. He should stick to Habitat for Humanity.
 
Alex said:
Having a problem with illegal immigrants getting free healthcare is a totally separate issue from racism. One can exist without the other, and there is no evidence to even suggest that they are related here.
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I agree with you there, but I'm speaking purely from my gut feeling.

Incidentally, illegals already get free healthcare, I'm not sure what the fuss about that is about. They can walk into any hospital and get all the state of the art treatments that modern medicine has to offer, without a care in the world.
 
Devil505 said:
Ask that question to the Secret Service. (they are at high alert all the time with Obmaa)

It is undeniable that there is an undercurrent of violence towards President Obama which is being stoked daily by the far right.
Obama is not an American

snip..

Obama is a nazi

snip..

Obama wants to kill your grandmother
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You mean like this-
jamesrage-albums-stuff-picture600-those-damn-obama-birther-nuts.jpg


Obama pals around with terrorists
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Obama has associated with a known terrorist many times.

Obama is destroying this nation
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many people thought Bush was destroying the nation.


Obama is a Communist
Obama is a Socialist
Obama will take your guns away
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People would be saying that regardless of Obama's race. The last democrat president did enact the Brady bill and Illinois has some of the most anti-2nd amendment laws, so the fear that the democrats will try to take away guns is very real and based on past performances of other democrats.

These things sound like jokes but they are all to real &...considering that:
1.We have the first black President in tbhe history of this nation
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None of those things have anything to do with racism.

2. Racism is not dead in this country
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No is not claiming it is.



3. Gun & ammo sales are extremely high
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That still be the case if Clinton, Biden, or some other democrat or liberal was in office. Democrats in general have a history of trying to subvert the 2nd amendment, this has nothing to do with race.

I would say than anyone who doesn't recognize/admit that we are siting on a powder keg is either fooling themselves or trying to fool us
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Anyone trying claim that Obama criticism has something to do with racism is a ****en moron, not just any moron but a ****en moron to indicate that moron trying to play the race card is such a moron that he makes other morons look like the most intelligent people on the planet.
 
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liblady said:
as does rush limbaugh, CURRENTLY a racist, with a rapt audience of millions.
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Can you show that Rush is a racist, or do you just want to slander him?
 
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