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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course it's racist, he was critical against Obama and apparently that defines racism now. There's no powder keg. Of course racism isn't dead; it probably never will fully be extinguished. But to basically claim that all criticism against Obama is rooted in some form of racism is just plain stupid.
    It's stupid, it's dishonest, it's inflammatory, and it says much more about the accuser than the accused.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Carter has a point.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's stupid, it's dishonest, it's inflammatory, and it says much more about the accuser than the accused.
    Perhaps those making the accusation simply cannot conceive of any other possible source of the criticism?

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    Carter has a point.
    Carter has no point.

    He says:

    1) There is racism in the country. (Duh.)

    2) Therefore, yelling "You lie!" at the President must be racially motivated.

    It does not follow. It's simply impugning motivation in order to avoid dealing with the actual point. Which I see a great deal of 'round these parts.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Perhaps those making the accusation simply cannot conceive of any other possible source of the criticism?
    No, I just think "racism" is the easiest deflect they have.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Perhaps those making the accusation simply cannot conceive of any other possible source of the criticism?
    That is one of the possible things it may say about the accuser, sure.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Those who claim they KNOW Wilson's outburst was racially motivated are no more compelling than those who claim they KNOW it was not.
    Unless you're a mind reader, no one can KNOW what is going on in another man's mind.
    That being said, a reasonable person can have strong suspicions that Wilson's outburst was in fact racially motivated, & I believe that is what former President Carter was saying......He has suspicions..
    Very little is know about SC Congressman Joe Wilson at this point, but there is enough evidence out there to convince me that racism MAY well have been his motive.
    There is another clue that some of you are missing that could tell the story of Wilson's intentions. How about the fact that OBAMA WAS LYING!!!

    "A reasonable person", as you seem to claim to be, should be able to read the appropriate sections of HR3200 (which Obama does support and wishes to "own", regardless of how he cops out of it during speeches) and it becomes apparent to a REAL reasonable person that he, indeed, lies his ass off regularly!
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That is one of the possible things it may say about the accuser, sure.
    If so, it speaks volumes.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    According to the psychological principle of Projection we should certainly consider whether Carter is the racist and is attributing his feelings to Wilson:

    Psychological projection (or projection bias) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and/or emotions, which are ascribed to...another person

    I know it's not great evidence, but like some of you, I just have a feeling. Carter is a racist. After all, Carter is white, and he's from the South. To think otherwise is to deny that racism exists in this country.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Carter has no point.

    He says:

    1) There is racism in the country. (Duh.)

    2) Therefore, yelling "You lie!" at the President must be racially motivated.
    Actually, I think Carter's reasoning was that for a representative to get so heated over a speech, implies something deeper. Carter interpreted that something deeper as racism. I think it has more to do with the widening of the ideological divide and the propaganda perpetrated by the media. Whatever it was, it was an emotional reaction, a clear aversion towards Obama that had less to do with what Obama was saying than the fact it was him saying it.

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