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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Show me Carter's evidence.
    What evidence would convince you? Joe Wilson is a 'good ol boy', Strom Thurmonds' prodigy. Strom Thrumond the segregationist and most famous racist in the Senate. Joe Wilson the guy who wants to fly the Confederate flag over the state capitol.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    It's 7:16AM &, while having coffee I just wanted to add a thought to my comment on this subject of last night:
    Not only do I believe Carter gave some thought to his words before he spoke them, I think he fully appreciated their impact & understood that he would be vilified by many for saying them.
    I consider it a mark of the man's courage & integrity that, knowing he would undoubtedly be viciously attacked for saying them....he said them anyway because loves his country to much to remain silent.
    Do you think he gave thought to the fact that he was about to embarrass the president? Do you think Obama appreciated his comments right before a tv talk show spree?

    "So do you agree with former president Carter, Mr. President?"

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    What evidence would convince you? Joe Wilson is a 'good ol boy', Strom Thurmonds' prodigy.
    Do you have any evidence at all that can prove "You lie!" is racist?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Do you think he gave thought to the fact that he was about to embarrass the president? Do you think Obama appreciated his comments right before a tv talk show spree?

    "So do you agree with former president Carter, Mr. President?"
    He gave thought to embarassing the President and planned his statement. The only people who looked back in surprise were the Democrats. It was planned alright--just like the disruptions at the Town Hall meetings have been planned.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    He gave thought to embarassing the President and planned his statement. The only people who looked back in surprise were the Democrats. It was planned alright--just like the disruptions at the Town Hall meetings have been planned.
    How do you know this? Why would Wilson choose that particular way to embarrass the president? Surely if one were planning such a thing, one would do it in a way that doesn't embarrass ones self.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    How do you know this? Why would Wilson choose that particular way to embarrass the president? Surely if one were planning such a thing, one would do it in a way that doesn't embarrass ones self.
    I'm basing this on the fact that the only ones who reacted in surprise were Democrats. The Republicans didn't even look at Wilson.

    I doubt that Wilson felt embarassed or chagrined in any way at all.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    I'm basing this on the fact that the only ones who reacted in surprise were Democrats. The Republicans didn't even look at Wilson.

    I doubt that Wilson felt embarassed or chagrined in any way at all.
    This is all smoke and mirrors. Do you have proof that saying "You lie!" is racist?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Here is a well thought out argument that makes sense to me. Consider that Wilson has been on many talk shows now basically rescinding his apology.

    "Wilson’s unprecedented assault on the dignity of the American presidency was part of a long-line of PR stunts to create chaos out of the effort to insure the health of most Americans: the Teabaggers, the Birthers, the Town Hall Mobs, the anti-President “Know Nothing” Parents pulling their kids from school the day before Obama’s speech, and then the shocking outburst of Joe Wilson, which he apparently shouted twice.

    Never mind that Strom Thurmond’s ex-aide was actually the liar, the evolution of politics into spectacle allowed the likely planned inflammatory outburst to dominate at least the following three news cycles, instead of the substance and soaring appeal of President Obama to pass legislation to benefit the national community.

    Wilson is the prototypical Neo-Confederate, Glenn Beck, racist, psychotic Republican. He supports waving the Confederate flag. He makes Jefferson Davis, the President of the Confederacy, look like a moderate, and is known for making slanderous statements about the “patriotism” of others and upholding the racist legacy of Strom Thurmond, his mentor.

    So Wilson was the perfect guy to distract the media by committing the unprecedented act of disrupting a Presidential speech by calling the President of the United States a liar. In the Bush Administration, if a Democrat had done that he would have been expelled from Congress. But Wilson just issued a non-apology apology and then went on television the next day to repeat the lie about the healthcare reform bill, and the media let him get away with prevaricating about his accusation."
    Where’s the Outrage? Was Joe Wilson’s outburst planned?

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    Here is a well thought out argument that makes sense to me. Consider that Wilson has been on many talk shows now basically rescinding his apology.

    "Wilson’s unprecedented assault on the dignity of the American presidency was part of a long-line of PR stunts to create chaos out of the effort to insure the health of most Americans: the Teabaggers, the Birthers, the Town Hall Mobs, the anti-President “Know Nothing” Parents pulling their kids from school the day before Obama’s speech, and then the shocking outburst of Joe Wilson, which he apparently shouted twice.

    Never mind that Strom Thurmond’s ex-aide was actually the liar, the evolution of politics into spectacle allowed the likely planned inflammatory outburst to dominate at least the following three news cycles, instead of the substance and soaring appeal of President Obama to pass legislation to benefit the national community.

    Wilson is the prototypical Neo-Confederate, Glenn Beck, racist, psychotic Republican. He supports waving the Confederate flag. He makes Jefferson Davis, the President of the Confederacy, look like a moderate, and is known for making slanderous statements about the “patriotism” of others and upholding the racist legacy of Strom Thurmond, his mentor.

    So Wilson was the perfect guy to distract the media by committing the unprecedented act of disrupting a Presidential speech by calling the President of the United States a liar. In the Bush Administration, if a Democrat had done that he would have been expelled from Congress. But Wilson just issued a non-apology apology and then went on television the next day to repeat the lie about the healthcare reform bill, and the media let him get away with prevaricating about his accusation."
    Where’s the Outrage? Was Joe Wilson’s outburst planned?

    I wish you woild make your own well thought out argument. This loser lost me at "teabagger."

    Were all of Hillary's eye rolls when Bush was giving his presidential addresses planned out, too?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    I'm basing this on the fact that the only ones who reacted in surprise were Democrats. The Republicans didn't even look at Wilson.

    I doubt that Wilson felt embarassed or chagrined in any way at all.
    Amazing how a "we're gonna do this, make sure you do this ... heheeee" strategy flew through Washington, and it never leaked. Simply Amazing.
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    You guys are weird.

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