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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I think I was clear when I said I blamed Bush for the "Success" of the attack.....Not the attack itself.....Big difference.
    Yes, you were clear. And my points all remain extremely valid and spot on in regards to whether you're talking about the attack itself or the success of the attack itself. Placing the majority or all the blame on the Bush Administration for the success is complete and utter ignorance and strains all credibility. If one is to put it on any president a stronger case could still be put on Clinton for why the attacks were successful. Even then though, you couldn't say it was a majority his fault. The attacks were successful for a plethora of reasons and only an absolute hack, someone ignorant of the situation, or someone blindly hyper partisan...or a mix of them all...could in any way shape or form say that a majority or all the blame should, could, or does fall on a singular administration.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Reaaaally.

    And what exactly is that you think he should have done -- what specific steps should he have taken -- to stop it from happening, based on the information he had? Specifics. Oh, and be 100% consistent with the Bill of Rights.
    1. Not discount the warnings of field FBI agents concerned about Arab men , paying with cash, for flight lessons to fly airliners...in flight.
    2. Not (listen to a CIA PDI (Presidential Daily Briefing) warning of imminent attack within the U.S.....one month before the attack itself...& then) go on vacation for the entire month of August/2001.


    Those are just for starters! (II don't think either suggestion would have violated the Bill of Rights...Do you?)
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    1. Not discount the warnings of field FBI agents concerned about Arab men , paying with cash, for flight lessons to fly airliners...in flight.
    Yeah. As if he actually did.

    2. Not listen to a CIA PDI (Presidential Daily Briefing) warning of imminent attack within the U.S.....one mo nth before the attack itself...& then go on vacation for the entire month of aAugust/2001.

    Those are just for starters!
    Obviously, you didn't get the "specific" part (aside from the fact that these are both things he "shouldn't" have done, not the steps he should have taken).

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah. As if he actually did.
    When I have time I'll google links for you on how the FBI tried to warn headquarters & were told not to worry about it. You can find itr easily too. (don't have time until later)



    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Obviously, you didn't get the "specific" part (aside from the fact that these are both things he "shouldn't" have done, not the steps he should have taken).

    But that's OK; I knew you'd have bupkis. It was simply worth pointing it out.
    You are grasping at straws here with your BS semantics...what he should have vs shouldn't have done.....Suppose he had been at work rather than on vacation the entire month preceding the attack......Think that MAY have changed things???...MAYBE???

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    If one is to put it on any president a stronger case could still be put on Clinton for why the attacks were successful. Even then though, you couldn't say it was a majority his fault.
    Here's my two cents about Clinton using my "hyper partisan right wing" Conservative point of view:

    Although there is evidence that Clinton MIGHT have been able to take out Bin Laden thus POSSIBLY avoiding the events leading up to 9-11; this is pure speculation and cannot be supported by any facts.

    The real reasons that 9-11 eventually succeeded was because the entire nation suffered a national amnesia of the threat of terrorism and found the idea those hijackers would fly large airliners into high rise buildings, the Pentagon or the Capital, nearly an impossible notion. Clancy even wrote a book suggesting this possibility.

    History taught us that hijacking airliners would serve a political purpose like getting terrorists released from prisons or making political statements and typically ended on the ground with minimal loss of life. We became complacent that our airport security was sufficient to prevent such a takeover without the benefit of guns/weapons.

    The events culminating in 9-11 were beyond the scale of anything previously believed and in MY opinion, an outright act of war on this nation and its institutions. The only reason the Capital or White House were not a victim was the bravery and act of heroism of the occupants of the United Flight.

    So even as a "hyper Right wing partisan," blaming Clinton, even partially in my opinion, for the events on 9-11 is about as asinine as blaming Bush.

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