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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think what's going on with the parties currently is partisan party politics, as per usual. No, they didn't care about spending before and some try to make it seem like they care about spending now. They don't. The Republicans and Democrats bicker and complain about the other side all the time. They aren't consistent, they rarely have valid point. That's another reason why I don't think this case with Wilson is motivated by racism. I see it as typical partisan politics.

    And Obama's HC will be a play to the insurance companies as well. The Democrats are just as bought as the Republicans. Obama knows who his "friends" are.
    Some indisputable truths there but where we disagree is the amount of cynicism/corruptness of the 2 major parties.
    I totally agree that both parties receive bribes ......oops......"Campaign Contributions" from the insurance industry, which is why I favor strict term limits & ending ALL bribes...damn....(can't stop myself) "Campaign Contributions" to ANY politician or party....but that's for another thread.

    What I disagree with is the idea that both parties are equally corrupt. The GOP....imo....Is almost totally the mouthpiece of bg oil, big insurance & big ANYTHING that is business related.
    The only interests they don't represent are those of middle class American citizens.

    I think the Dems are much more in tune with them (average Americans) than the GOP & a little less corrupt in term of being run by special interests.

    Again......just my opinion.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I was tempted to go for Irony and change my sig line to

    "Sherman. Great General? Or Greatest General?"

    (answer is greatest. Total War baby, WOO)

    But I've enjoyed the sig line pointing out the defening silence too much to lose it for the moment.

    Now someone just needs to comment on how racist I am for having the Confederate Flag up on my avatar and I can politely inform them that no, I do not, its not on a white field.
    That is so racist; I am in shock and awe that you would even include that in your avatar and is a flagrant violation of the forum rules as it is a deliberate attempt to bait the uninformed.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Some indisputable truths there but where we disagree is the amount of cynicism/corruptness of the 2 major parties.
    I totally agree that both parties receive bribes ......oops......"Campaign Contributions" from the insurance industry, which is why I favor strict term limits & ending ALL bribes...damn....(can't stop myself) "Campaign Contributions" to ANY politician or party....but that's for another thread.

    What I disagree with is the idea that both parties are equally corrupt. The GOP....imo....Is almost totally the mouthpiece of bg oil, big insurance & big ANYTHING that is business related.
    The only interests they don't represent are those of middle class American citizens.

    I think the Dems are much more in tune with them (average Americans) than the GOP & a little less corrupt in term of being run by special interests.

    Again......just my opinion.
    That's fine, but the reality of the situation is that both parties pander to their lobbyists. The Republocrats are out for themselves, their power, and their pocket. While each party may have a handful of people here and there that aren't, the whole is entirely corrupted. The Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans. Neither are controlled, both move for larger government and more power and neither are held in check by the People.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    Making an argument that Bush's administrations actions played into it could legitimately be made. Making one that its directly due to them is absolutely asinine and strains credibility and logical thought, not to mention would make any honest and neutral person with any knowledge of national security and intellegence gathering blush at the mere thought of it.
    I don't believe I said that the 9/11 attack was "directly due to them " (Bush)...I'll go back & check my wording.

    What I meant to say was that the attack was as horribly successful as it turned up to be, in large part due to the inept handling of pre-attack information by Bush & his national security team. This ineptness was bordering on Dereliction of Duty, imo.


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    Nope...I was right. Here's my entire post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Many believe that the 9/11 attack was successful directly due to the ineptness of the Bush administration in:

    1. Taking the entire month off (preceding the attack) AFTER being warned by the CIA that an Al Quieda attack was imminent

    AND

    2. Dismissing the FBI warnings that Arab men were paying cash to learn how to fly airliners.......Not take-off or landings...Just flight.


    So...A good argument can be made that Bush & the GOP were derelict in their national security duties both before the 9/11 attack & after in the failing to ever get Bin Ladin & diverting attention to Iraq for oil.



    I think I was clear when I said I blamed Bush for the "Success" of the attack.....Not the attack itself.....Big difference.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Some indisputable truths there but where we disagree is the amount of cynicism/corruptness of the 2 major parties.
    I totally agree that both parties receive bribes ......oops......"Campaign Contributions" from the insurance industry, which is why I favor strict term limits & ending ALL bribes...damn....(can't stop myself) "Campaign Contributions" to ANY politician or party....but that's for another thread.

    What I disagree with is the idea that both parties are equally corrupt. The GOP....imo....Is almost totally the mouthpiece of bg oil, big insurance & big ANYTHING that is business related.
    The only interests they don't represent are those of middle class American citizens.

    I think the Dems are much more in tune with them (average Americans) than the GOP & a little less corrupt in term of being run by special interests.

    Again......just my opinion.
    I agree, for the first six years of the republican rule, they were indeed the "mouth piece of the special interest" but times have changed, so has the power.

    I just wonder if you are willing to now focus on this power, the one who has the purse strings?

    You need not look very far.....GE, GM, SEIU, ACORN, the trial lawyers, are you really suggesting that these special interests represent an entire nation?

    The sooner you folks understand that these parties are no different, the sooner we can get down to changing this corrupt system.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    You can tell yourself whatever you want to make yourself feel better.

    If you want to believe the South was the victim, go ahead.

    If you want to believe Southern slave culture was proud and noble, go ahead.

    If you want to think the murder and bondage of an entire people was second to tariffs, go ahead.

    Other than a few other fringe posters writing in this thread, no one outside of it will take you seriously.
    Why don't you answer his question? Do you know how many Southern families had slaves?

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I don't believe I said that the 9/11 attack was "directly due to them " (Bush)...I'll go back & check my wording.

    What I meant to say was that the attack was as horribly successful as it turned up to be, in large part due to the inept handling of pre-attack information by Bush & his national security team. This ineptness was bordering on Dereliction of Duty, imo.
    Reaaaally.

    And what exactly is that you think he should have done -- what specific steps should he have taken -- to stop it from happening, based on the information he had? Specifics. Oh, and be 100% consistent with the Bill of Rights.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Most of Wilson's own allies didn't even vote to keep flying the Confederate flag.

    Don't tell me Wilson isn't at least a closet racist, you don't vote to keep a flag that represents hatred, slavery and racism and then think you're a multi-cultural accepting modern citizen of the world.



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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

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    I know........ I am sure Laila has a waiting list.
    Surprisingly no ... I am keeping my shed open for Colin Firth to come knocking. I know .... but a girl can dream.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Surprisingly no ... I am keeping my shed open for Colin Firth to come knocking. I know .... but a girl can dream.
    Doesn't he prefer the company of men? Maybe that's Rupert Everett.
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