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Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

"'I think it's based on racism,' Carter said in response to an audience question at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. 'There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.'"

He doesn't seem to have a positive view of Americans to think 'many of them' have a problem with a non white President .... :roll:
 
He doesn't seem to have a positive view of Americans to think 'many of them' have a problem with a non white President .... :roll:
He is certainly not a positive person.
 
What evidence is there that Wilson has racial bias or that his outburst was race-based?

Not a damn bit but that does not stop the dishonest left from slinging their mud.
 
The same Carter who got a nobel prize? I like him.
I'm not surprised.

That would be the same Carter that has shown himself to have strong antisemitism leanings time after time. He has zero credibility concerning race or ethnicity.

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I'm not surprised.

That would be the same Carter that has shown himself to have strong antisemitism leanings time after time. He has zero credibility concerning race or ethnicity.

What Carter are we discussing? Because the things i like about Carter has nothing to do with being anti semetic :roll:
 
What Carter are we discussing? Because the things i like about Carter has nothing to do with being anti semetic :roll:
'We' are discussing Jimmy Carter, past President of the USA, anti-semite extraordinaire.

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Here, there is already a thread on this:
Carter again shows his stupidity

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Before passing judgment, I'd like to see some evidence of Carter's claims. IMO, all the accusations that the disagreements with Obama are based on racism are pretty ridiculous. From what I see, most who disagree with him, disagree because of ideology or because they do not like his policies. So, before Carter starts bringing in the race card, I would hope that he would have something substantial to back it up. Thus far, I see nada.

Those who claim they KNOW Wilson's outburst was racially motivated are no more compelling than those who claim they KNOW it was not.
Unless you're a mind reader, no one can KNOW what is going on in another man's mind.
That being said, a reasonable person can have strong suspicions that Wilson's outburst was in fact racially motivated, & I believe that is what former President Carter was saying......He has suspicions..
Very little is know about SC Congressman Joe Wilson at this point, but there is enough evidence out there to convince me that racism MAY well have been his motive.


As a piece of information I offer in support of my suspicion I offer a portion of Maureen Dowd's NY Times column in which she writes:
"The congressman, we learned, belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.
ImmigrationProf Blog: Is Joe Wilson a Racist?

Additionally I offer this:
Mary's World: Joe Wilson is the Poster Child for the Racist Right.

Here is a web search...with many more hits.... in response to the question: Is Joe Wilson racist:
joe wilson racist? - Yahoo! Search Results




I offer the above not as proof of Wilson's racial motivation but as proof that such a charge cannot possibly be simply dismissed out of hand.
In police work, the test of "Probable Cause" is one that an investigator must pass in order to receive an arrest or search warrant from a court of law & , while the evidence threshold is low in an application for a warrant, it must be reasonable enough to convince a judge or magistrate that a search is warranted. I believe (my opinion) the above information would establish enough "PC" to get a search warrant from any magistrate in this country, if applied for.
 
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Those who claim they KNOW Wilson's outburst was racially motivated are no more compelling than those who claim they KNOW it was not.
Unless you're a mind reader, no one can KNOW what is going on in another man's mind.
That being said, a reasonable person can have strong suspicions that Wilson's outburst was in fact racialy motivated.
Very little is know about SC Congressman Joe Wilson at this point, but there is enough evidence out there to convince me that racism MAY well have been his motive.


As a piece of information I offer in support of my suspicion I offer a portion of Maureen Dowd's NY Times column in which she writes:
"The congressman, we learned, belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.
ImmigrationProf Blog: Is Joe Wilson a Racist?

Additionally I offer this:
Mary's World: Joe Wilson is the Poster Child for the Racist Right.

Here is a web search...with many more hits.... in response to the question: Is Joe Wilson racist:
joe wilson racist? - Yahoo! Search Results




I offer the above not as proof of Wilson's racial motivation but as proof that such a charge cannot possibly be simply dismissed out of hand.
In police work, the test of "Probable Cause" is one that an investigator must pass in order to receive an arrest or search warrant from a court of law. I believe (my opinion) the above information would establish enough "PC" to get a search warrant from any magistrate in this country.

This evidence is not compelling enough for me. There are plenty of folks who appreciate the Confederate flag and are not racist. There are plenty of folks who believed that the what the Confederacy did was just and legal, and are not racist. I would need more proof than this.
 
This evidence is not compelling enough for me. There are plenty of folks who appreciate the Confederate flag and are not racist. There are plenty of folks who believed that the what the Confederacy did was just and legal, and are not racist. I would need more proof than this.

Alright your honor...;)......I admit the evidence I presented (at this time) is sparse but I'd ask if you read this portion of Ms. Dowd's article as well: (Wilson) "denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. "
I'd request that you withhold your final determination for another week.... during which time I expect more evidence will be uncovered about Mr. Wilson's racist beliefs that may be more compelling for you.
In the mean time, I'd request this court issue an order to Rep. Joe Wilson to not erase or destroy any letters, computer files or electronic communications in his possession or control that may shed some more light on his motivations.
 
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It's kind of dangerous to just dismiss anyone who disagrees with Obama as racist.
 
It's kind of dangerous to just dismiss anyone who disagrees with Obama as racist.

Very few dismiss anyone who disagrees with Obama as racist. I have a few things I disagree with him about too....but....It's also dangerous to not consider racism is the cause of some of the anti-Obama rhetoric since he is our first black President & no one seriously thinks racism is all in the past in this country,
 
Very few dismiss anyone who disagrees with Obama as racist. I have a few things I disagree with him about too....but....It's also dangerous to not consider racism is the cause of some of the anti-Obama rhetoric since he is our first black President & no one seriously thinks racism is all in the past in this country,

That's exactly what Jimmy Carter just did. Racism may play a part,but it's being grossly overstated to make Obama out as a victim. lulz
 
That's exactly what Jimmy Carter just did. Racism may play a part,but it's being grossly overstated to make Obama out as a victim. lulz
As far as I know Jimmy Carter has not labeled everyone who disagrees with Obama a racist.
BTW....I like your nickname!
 
Very few dismiss anyone who disagrees with Obama as racist.

When one of the very few is a former US President, and he spouts off his mouth publically, it holds a lot of water with the masses looking for racism. I swear, sometimes you wonder if people like Jimmy Carter are trying to cause further racial problems with this kind of crap. Is this Helter Skelter???
 
As far as I know Jimmy Carter has not labeled everyone who disagrees with Obama a racist.

Did you watch the video?He dismissed criticism of him as racist,therefore deflecting much needed criticism from a failure of an administration.
 
Did you watch the video?He dismissed criticism of him as racist,therefore deflecting much needed criticism from a failure of an administration.

No..I didn't see the whole video & if Carter said or implied that ALL anti Obama criticism is racially motivated then he is clearly wrong. I doubt that is what he meant.
 
No..I didn't see the whole video & if Carter said or implied that ALL anti Obama criticism is racially motivated then he is clearly wrong. I doubt that is what he meant.

That's what he said lol.
 
That's what he said lol.

OK...I just watched the beginning of the video & Carter accused "Many People".....not all.
Do you have a time reference in the tape when he says ALL anti Obama complaints are racist?
 
Those who claim they KNOW Wilson's outburst was racially motivated are no more compelling than those who claim they KNOW it was not.
Unless you're a mind reader, no one can KNOW what is going on in another man's mind.
That is right, so there is no need to speculate based on such nonsense.


That being said, a reasonable person can have strong suspicions that Wilson's outburst was in fact racially motivated, ...
No. A reasonable person would not have such thoughts to start with.
A reasonable person would do what CaptainCourtesy is doing.



Very little is know about SC Congressman Joe Wilson at this point, but there is enough evidence out there to convince me that racism MAY well have been his motive.
Wow!


As a piece of information I offer in support of my suspicion I offer a portion of Maureen Dowd's NY Times column in which she writes:
"The congressman, we learned, belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.
ImmigrationProf Blog: Is Joe Wilson a Racist?
Her opinion of Wilson's actions is not evidence.
And why didn't you provide her article where she makes this statement instead of relying on another's quote of her?
Could it be that in it, she herself, exposes her own bigoted thought's, making her a crappy source?

But, fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air: You lie, boy!
The New York Times: Op-Ed Columnist: Maureen Dowd: Boy, Oh, Boy



A housewife's blog from Wisconsin as evidence? Seriously?



Here is a web search...with many more hits.... in response to the question: Is Joe Wilson racist:
joe wilson racist? - Yahoo! Search Results
Big deal!
You only get 2,350,000 for joe wilson racist?
Whereas;
You only get 29,200,000 for president obama racist? 25 million+ more.
It means nothing as to whether they are or are not.



I offer the above not as proof of Wilson's racial motivation but as proof that such a charge cannot possibly be simply dismissed out of hand.
In police work, the test of "Probable Cause" is one that an investigator must pass in order to receive an arrest or search warrant from a court of law & , while the evidence threshold is low in an application for a warrant, it must be reasonable enough to convince a judge or magistrate that a search is warranted. I believe (my opinion) the above information would establish enough "PC" to get a search warrant from any magistrate in this country, if applied for.
What you provided would only be enough to get you laughed out of the building and would be a source of amusement for years to come.





Alright your honor...;)......I admit the evidence I presented (at this time) is sparse but I'd ask if you read this portion of Ms. Dowd's article as well: (Wilson) "denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. "
One persons opinion is not proof of anything other than, it is there opinion.


In the mean time, I'd request this court issue an order to Rep. Joe Wilson to not erase or destroy any letters, computer files or electronic communications in his possession or control that may shed some more light on his motivations.
Wilson's motivations are clear.
Obama is a liar.
Why not try put the focus on the one who is a liar (Obama), instead of trying to discredit the messenger.


You and Carter are engaged in the same thing. Trying to deflect away from the fact that Obama is liar and trying to discredit one person who openly calls him out for it.

But for the sake of argument, lets say Wilson is a racist.
It wouldn't matter because he spoke truthfully.
Obama is a liar.
 
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President Carter got it right
the reich wing is ginning up anti-Obama support using racist undertones
the bowel movement of the teabaggers has little to do with opposition to health care reform and much to do with opposition to Obama
but when the teabaggers are questioned about specific objections, they come up empty
yep, Jimmy pegged it
it's so obvious, Stevie Wonder could see it

Do you have any actual evidence that Wilson is a racist? Is there a video of him saying he hated black people, did he use the term nigger disparaging way, is there a video of him dressed like a terrorist wearing a sheet and a hood, or any thing else to prove that the man is a racist? When people make blatantly bogus claims of racism they look like stupid ignorant desperate pieces of ****.
 
I live deep into the south and the only time I hear the N word is listening to rap music on the radio
 
Jimmy Carter has it ALL WRONG. Joe's comments weren't made because he's a racist. He said what he said because he's a dumbass.
 
Jimmy Carter has it ALL WRONG. Joe's comments weren't made because he's a racist. He said what he said because he's a dumbass.
Show us where Wilson was inaccurate though. You can't.
 
As a piece of information I offer in support of my suspicion I offer a portion of Maureen Dowd's NY Times column in which she writes:
"The congressman, we learned, belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol

Weak "evidence" at best. Plenty of folks believe in the Confederacy's stand for state rights and embrace the Confederate flag as a symbol of southern history and pride. The flag has been used by racists, but not exclusively.

and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.
ImmigrationProf Blog: Is Joe Wilson a Racist?

One could consider the the claim of Thurmond having an illegitimate daughter, regardless of her race, to be a smear. The fact that she ended up being Thurmond's daughter shows that Wilson rushed to judge, but doesn't mean his response was racially motivated.

Additionally I offer this:
Mary's World: Joe Wilson is the Poster Child for the Racist Right.

Here is a web search...with many more hits.... in response to the question: Is Joe Wilson racist:
joe wilson racist? - Yahoo! Search Results

Kooky stuff you find on the internet hardly is evidence. If it was, I'd be able to prove that both Bush and Obama are the anti-christ, 9/11 was an inside job, aliens built the pyramids, and Brittany Spears is the greatest musical artist ever. All of which are clearly insane.

I offer the above not as proof of Wilson's racial motivation but as proof that such a charge cannot possibly be simply dismissed out of hand.
In police work, the test of "Probable Cause" is one that an investigator must pass in order to receive an arrest or search warrant from a court of law & , while the evidence threshold is low in an application for a warrant, it must be reasonable enough to convince a judge or magistrate that a search is warranted. I believe (my opinion) the above information would establish enough "PC" to get a search warrant from any magistrate in this country, if applied for.

I look at from a different point of view. Racism is a serious charge and is considered to be one of the most dispicable things a person can be. It should only be raised when the case is clear. Claims of racism without any solid foundation weaken the strength of the call to address legitimate problems we still have with race. It poisons and undermines our progress towards ending racism.
 
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