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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Obama said white people are typically racist.
    Link please. When I claim a FACT (like you just did) I back it up with a link)

    Opinions....No....but claimed facts need to be proved.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Joe Wilson is a member, or apparently was a member of the Sons of Confederates Veterans.

    Maybe in the past this group was harmless, but according to the SPLC, since their new "leader" took over; it has been an overtly racist organization that has repudiated "racial inter-breeding" and called slavery benign, and slave owners noble.

    We'll see in the upcoming days whether he is still a member of this very racist group of crazies.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    What evidence is there that Wilson has racial bias or that his outburst was race-based?

    Does anyone want to back up their claim that Wilson's outburst was based on race?

    This is what I mean by irresponsible comments like the one Carter made. When you make wild accusations like Carter did, without any real proof of their validity, people will start to believe it and the word "racist" takes on a whole new and convoluted meaning. People will start to use it in situations when it does not really apply, and that only adds to the problem.
    Over a 120 year combined span, Carter and I have conversed with hundreds of people, and as I have said, if you think racism is dead, you are just whistling Dixie.
    Do you personally know Wilson ?
    I do not, but I have a pretty good idea of human nature; also his track record is not so good..
    Consider this .
    No Representative has ever called, outright, and on TV, any president a liar.
    The Republicians desperately need a leader, a man of quality and intelligence.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    No Representative has ever called, outright, and on TV, any president a liar.
    The Republicians desperately need a leader, a man of quality and intelligence.
    What do either of these things have to do with racism? If they don't, why did you bring them up in context with your post?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Watch the video at the link.
    I did. Nowhere in his comments did Carter say or imply that Wilson was a racist. His comments about Wilson centered solely on the fact that Wilson's outburst was unacceptable, ugly, and that Wilson was being considered for censure by the House.

    Got anything else?

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    Joe Wilson is a member, or apparently was a member of the Sons of Confederates Veterans.

    Maybe in the past this group was harmless, but according to the SPLC, since their new "leader" took over; it has been an overtly racist organization that has repudiated "racial inter-breeding" and called slavery benign, and slave owners noble.

    We'll see in the upcoming days whether he is still a member of this very racist group of crazies.
    From the Sons of Confederate Veterans website:

    The SCV has ongoing programs at the local, state, and national levels which offer members a wide range of activities. Preservation work, marking Confederate soldier's graves, historical re-enactments, scholarly publications, and regular meetings to discuss the military and political history of the War Between the States are only a few of the activities sponsored by local units, called camps.
    I only scanned it briefly, but strangely I didn't see anything regarding race there. I checked them out on wikipedia and foudn this:

    Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush have tendered letters of commendation to the SCV and affiliates,[4][5] as have other members of the United States Congress.
    I doubt our last two former Presidents would be commending a vile racist organization.

    On May 25, 2009, President Barack Obama garnered praise from SCV Commander Chuck McMichael, who stated, “He upheld the tradition of the office to which he was elected. I do intend to send him a thank you letter. This is the kind of thing that transcends politics.” This statement was in response to Obama's decision to continue the long standing tradition of the U.S. President sending a wreath to the Confederate Monument at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day.
    Praising Obama. Hmmmm, those vile racist scumbags!

    Other notable members (and fellow vile racists include) Clint Eastwood, Harry Truman, Trent Lott, Charlie Daniels, and Trace Adkins.

    There has been some factionalization in the group and some of the leadership has taken on a more political and racial agenda, but even the critics of the group like respected Civil War historian James M. McPherson refuse to paint all members and chapters as neo-Confederates or white supremists.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Confederate_Veterans]Sons of Confederate Veterans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    He can have an opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. But his opinion is unsubstantiated and therefore lacks validity. It could be my opinion that Jimmy Carter is an android sent by hostile aliens to ruin this nation one stupid remark at a time, but without evidence to back it up, its hardly something folks should take serious, is it?
    I think you've answered your own question. You folks who are having fits over this should take Psychoclown's advice.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I did. Nowhere in his comments did Carter say or imply that Wilson was a racist. His comments about Wilson centered solely on the fact that Wilson's outburst was unacceptable, ugly, and that Wilson was being considered for censure by the House.

    Got anything else?
    No, he listed a litany of what he considered to be racist actions/attacks and then included Wilson's comment within that context. There's no other way to take it if you're listening honestly.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    From the Sons of Confederate Veterans website:



    I only scanned it briefly, but strangely I didn't see anything regarding race there. I checked them out on wikipedia and foudn this:



    I doubt our last two former Presidents would be commending a vile racist organization.



    Praising Obama. Hmmmm, those vile racist scumbags!

    Other notable members (and fellow vile racists include) Clint Eastwood, Harry Truman, Trent Lott, Charlie Daniels, and Trace Adkins.

    There has been some factionalization in the group and some of the leadership has taken on a more political and racial agenda, but even the critics of the group like respected Civil War historian James M. McPherson refuse to paint all members and chapters as neo-Confederates or white supremists.

    Sons of Confederate Veterans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Rev. Eric Dean, an American Southerner living in Europe, had been hearing the rumors for months. Finally, he decided to pay a visit to a former high-ranking leader of the Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV), the Southern heritage group of which Dean had long been a proud member.

    For Rev. Dean, the clincher was a sermon from the SCV's chaplain in chief that attacked "racial interbreeding" as ungodly and described slavery as biblically sanctioned.

    SPLCenter.org: Into The Wild

    http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?aid=614
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I think you've answered your own question. You folks who are having fits over this should take Psychoclown's advice.

    The problem is folks are taking his comment seriously and acting as if it is valid and substantiated. There are plenty of folks, both here and in the media, who are using the racist tag to smear opposition to Obama.

    Not to mention, when a former President speaks out its going to be newsworthy and therefore fair game for commentary.
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